A lot of them? In the US as a rule of thumb you take whatever salary you're paid and 1.7/8-2.x it and that's what you're actually being paid when you take into

A lot of them? In the US as a rule of thumb you take whatever salary you're paid and 1.7/8-2.x it and that's what you're actually being paid when you take into account benefits in addition to salary. Even in the Great Lakes region you're looking st like $60-$70,000 starting salary + a great healthcare plan, 401k, bonuses, and in some instances even a pension still. Hell, even public institutions pay well in this regard.