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>Cops are people too The motivation to go home unharmed every night and retire with a pension probably trumps abstract moral considerations

valuearb 9y ago
In this case his motivation was to avoid a few splinters jumping back over the fence.
ourmandave 9y ago
I was thinking of a video where the SWAT guys got the wrong apartment. It's from a team-member's lapel cam. Near the end of it, they have the whole family (mom, dad, and two little kids) in the living room while they're searching the place. The dad is zip-tied, face down on the floor and starts crying out loud when he finds out they shot the family dog. You'd have to be pretty hard core not to have some regret.
- Simon_says 9y ago
  I don't know the specific video you're talking about, but these kinds of raids point to an overarching problem with the police in the US, and that's the need for aggressive raids of homes, usually of the "no-knock" variety. The reason why police have the need to "no-knock" raid homes is that the crime is drug possession, and the drugs could be flushed or disposed of if there were a lengthy negotiation process to safely get everyone out of the house. Every dog killed in these raids is collateral damage from our idiotic war on drugs.
  - DrScump 9y ago
    Courts have generally held that no-knock warrants are legal only in cases where critical evidence is at risk of immediate destruction if police announce normally (e.g. drugs down a toilet, bookies writing on flashpaper).
    - Simon_says 9y ago
      Exactly my point. (And it's overwhelmingly drugs, not bookies.) It's a bad trade off as a society for us to make police work more dangerous for the public and the officers in order to criminalize possession of certain plants.
mnm1 9y ago
When exactly did this become the entirety of a cop's job description?

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>Cops are people too The motivation to go home unharmed every night and retire with a pension probably trumps abstract moral considerations

by xkcd-sucks 9y ago

valuearb 9y ago
In this case his motivation was to avoid a few splinters jumping back over the fence.
ourmandave 9y ago
I was thinking of a video where the SWAT guys got the wrong apartment. It's from a team-member's lapel cam. Near the end of it, they have the whole family (mom, dad, and two little kids) in the living room while they're searching the place. The dad is zip-tied, face down on the floor and starts crying out loud when he finds out they shot the family dog. You'd have to be pretty hard core not to have some regret.
- Simon_says 9y ago
  I don't know the specific video you're talking about, but these kinds of raids point to an overarching problem with the police in the US, and that's the need for aggressive raids of homes, usually of the "no-knock" variety. The reason why police have the need to "no-knock" raid homes is that the crime is drug possession, and the drugs could be flushed or disposed of if there were a lengthy negotiation process to safely get everyone out of the house. Every dog killed in these raids is collateral damage from our idiotic war on drugs.
  - DrScump 9y ago
    Courts have generally held that no-knock warrants are legal only in cases where critical evidence is at risk of immediate destruction if police announce normally (e.g. drugs down a toilet, bookies writing on flashpaper).
    - Simon_says 9y ago
      Exactly my point. (And it's overwhelmingly drugs, not bookies.) It's a bad trade off as a society for us to make police work more dangerous for the public and the officers in order to criminalize possession of certain plants.
mnm1 9y ago
When exactly did this become the entirety of a cop's job description?