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> "Climate change" doesn't make specific enough predictions about this type... Actually it does. In a warming world more frequent calving events are expectable

by noiv 9y ago

> "Climate change" doesn't make specific enough predictions about this type... Actually it does. In a warming world more frequent calving events are expectable. This part of Antarctica shows quite some positive temperature anomalies. So, asking whether Larsen C would be still intact today without Climate Change the answer is certainly yes.

nonbel 9y ago
As I said a month ago when this coverage started, it is very strange how there are so many people (in the media and internet posters) who are so sure about that, when the actual people studying it claim otherwise: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14577296 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14577296 >“Although this is a natural event, and we’re not aware of any link to human-induced climate change, this puts the ice shelf in a very vulnerable position. This is the furthest back that the ice front has been in recorded history. We’re going to be watching very carefully for signs that the rest of the shelf is becoming unstable.” http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/calving/ http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/calving/ >'Andrew Shepherd, professor of Earth Observation at the University of Leeds, agreed. “Everyone loves a good iceberg, and this one is a corker,” he said. “But despite keeping us waiting for so long, I’m pretty sure that Antarctica won’t be shedding a tear when it’s gone because the continent loses plenty of its ice this way each year, and so it’s really just business as usual!”https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti... >"And while climate change is accepted to have played a role in the wholesale disintegration of the Larsen A and Larsen B ice shelves, Luckman emphasised that there is no evidence that the calving of the giant iceberg is linked to such processes." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti...
- noiv 9y ago
  Look, I did not answer the irrelevant question whether Larsen C calved because of Climate Change. Attributing single events in remote areas is hard. That's why I answered a different question, the key words are 'today' and 'more frequently', please read the comment carefully again.
  - nonbel 9y ago
    >"So, asking whether Larsen C would be still intact today without Climate Change the answer is certainly yes."

by noiv 9y ago

nonbel 9y ago

As I said a month ago when this coverage started, it is very strange how there are so many people (in the media and internet posters) who are so sure about that, when the actual people studying it claim otherwise: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14577296 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14577296 >“Although this is a natural event, and we’re not aware of any link to human-induced climate change, this puts the ice shelf in a very vulnerable position. This is the furthest back that the ice front has been in recorded history. We’re going to be watching very carefully for signs that the rest of the shelf is becoming unstable.” http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/calving/ http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/calving/ >'Andrew Shepherd, professor of Earth Observation at the University of Leeds, agreed. “Everyone loves a good iceberg, and this one is a corker,” he said. “But despite keeping us waiting for so long, I’m pretty sure that Antarctica won’t be shedding a tear when it’s gone because the continent loses plenty of its ice this way each year, and so it’s really just business as usual!”https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti... >"And while climate change is accepted to have played a role in the wholesale disintegration of the Larsen A and Larsen B ice shelves, Luckman emphasised that there is no evidence that the calving of the giant iceberg is linked to such processes." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti...

noiv 9y ago
Look, I did not answer the irrelevant question whether Larsen C calved because of Climate Change. Attributing single events in remote areas is hard. That's why I answered a different question, the key words are 'today' and 'more frequently', please read the comment carefully again.
- nonbel 9y ago
  >"So, asking whether Larsen C would be still intact today without Climate Change the answer is certainly yes."