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I feel there is nothing wrong with China or its people in general, just like there is nothing wrong with any other country and their people in general... The p

I feel there is nothing wrong with China or its people in general, just like there is nothing wrong with any other country and their people in general... The problem is in their government, and their capability and method of controlling the social resources; and more often than not, the government is quite aggressive toward those who disagree with them.

dogma1138 9y ago
At some point you need to accept that a government does represent the people. Not everyone and not all the time but over a sufficiently large time frame it does. This doesn't mean that Chinese are inherently oppressive it just means that the current cultural construct does heavily lean that way. There is a reason why you cannot transform a dictatorship into a democracy overnight without heavy and and continous influence. A democracy lives not because of a piece of paper but because the cultural construct of the people supports it. And while it is a chicken and the egg problem at some point that argument becomes irrelevant. For China to change it will have to change its cultural constructs that allow it to sustain itself as it does today.
- 68c12c16 9y ago
  Yes, I agree...And some people, from both inside and outside the country, consider that perhaps a period of Enlightenment would really transform the current culture there. But I feel that given the current style of the Chinese government, it does not seem that there is much space for its people to develop any democratic or Enlightenment culture -- and from a perspective of statistics, a true and just and honest democratic society is more stable, both internally and externally, than an autocratic one -- and more likely to benefit a wider range of people. Yet this is not the fault of any average Chinese...It is just that, at several critical moments in its history, some overly self-centered and overly biased leaders caused tremendous damages -- with all its ruinous and poisonous ramifications -- to the entire society. Had it been more democratic then, such damages would be unlikely to have ever happened...But the assumption of that necessity leads to the chicken or the egg dilemma... Or perhaps the history -- and its consequential reality -- is quite fortuitous in nature...

dogma1138 9y ago

At some point you need to accept that a government does represent the people. Not everyone and not all the time but over a sufficiently large time frame it does. This doesn't mean that Chinese are inherently oppressive it just means that the current cultural construct does heavily lean that way. There is a reason why you cannot transform a dictatorship into a democracy overnight without heavy and and continous influence. A democracy lives not because of a piece of paper but because the cultural construct of the people supports it. And while it is a chicken and the egg problem at some point that argument becomes irrelevant. For China to change it will have to change its cultural constructs that allow it to sustain itself as it does today.

68c12c16 9y ago
Yes, I agree...And some people, from both inside and outside the country, consider that perhaps a period of Enlightenment would really transform the current culture there. But I feel that given the current style of the Chinese government, it does not seem that there is much space for its people to develop any democratic or Enlightenment culture -- and from a perspective of statistics, a true and just and honest democratic society is more stable, both internally and externally, than an autocratic one -- and more likely to benefit a wider range of people. Yet this is not the fault of any average Chinese...It is just that, at several critical moments in its history, some overly self-centered and overly biased leaders caused tremendous damages -- with all its ruinous and poisonous ramifications -- to the entire society. Had it been more democratic then, such damages would be unlikely to have ever happened...But the assumption of that necessity leads to the chicken or the egg dilemma... Or perhaps the history -- and its consequential reality -- is quite fortuitous in nature...