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> C++11/14/17 each make the language better and deal That may be true, but all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once ag

by jussij 9y ago

> C++11/14/17 each make the language better and deal That may be true, but all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once again become relevant. IMHO in this modern day and age there are so many easier, better, more expressive, easier to use languages than C++ to choose from. And that is coming from someone who spent a lot of time coding C++ some 15 years ago.

pcwalton 9y ago
> That may be true, but all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once again become relevant. To be fair, that's what every other language does too. There are few truly novel ideas in industry programming languages.
sqeaky 9y ago
> an effort to once again become relevant. I was unaware that being the 2nd and 3rd most popular language made it not relevant when I guess nothing is relevant except Java. (Per the Tiobe index) If you need high level abstractions and the ability to tweak for performance at the lowest levels the it is either C++ or Rust, and if you need a mature ecosystem that really only leaves C++. Game devs, Google, Facebook, HPC and tons of stuff and now with emscripten and WASM we get to compete with JS devs for in browser games too!
blackflame7000 9y ago
"all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once again become relevant." considering just about every other languages interpreter is written in C thats an odd statement. It's like saying the egg copied the Chicken.
geezerjay 9y ago
> That may be true, but all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once again become relevant. Considering that C++ is perhaps the most popular programming language ever designed (in TIOBE's index it ranks 3rd, right after C and Java), you sound that you nurtured an irrational hatred for a programming language. That says more about you than the language you are trying to criticise.

by jussij 9y ago

pcwalton 9y ago

> That may be true, but all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once again become relevant. To be fair, that's what every other language does too. There are few truly novel ideas in industry programming languages.

sqeaky 9y ago

> an effort to once again become relevant. I was unaware that being the 2nd and 3rd most popular language made it not relevant when I guess nothing is relevant except Java. (Per the Tiobe index) If you need high level abstractions and the ability to tweak for performance at the lowest levels the it is either C++ or Rust, and if you need a mature ecosystem that really only leaves C++. Game devs, Google, Facebook, HPC and tons of stuff and now with emscripten and WASM we get to compete with JS devs for in browser games too!

blackflame7000 9y ago

"all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once again become relevant." considering just about every other languages interpreter is written in C thats an odd statement. It's like saying the egg copied the Chicken.

geezerjay 9y ago

> That may be true, but all you are seeing is C++ copying from every other language in an effort to once again become relevant. Considering that C++ is perhaps the most popular programming language ever designed (in TIOBE's index it ranks 3rd, right after C and Java), you sound that you nurtured an irrational hatred for a programming language. That says more about you than the language you are trying to criticise.