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That's how App Academy works already. Put a deposit down, go through the program, then pay them a percentage of your first years wages from your new job. I did
by phyller 9y ago
That's how App Academy works already. Put a deposit down, go through the program, then pay them a percentage of your first years wages from your new job. I did it, and rich people at the golf club where I worked were telling me it was a bad idea, sounded illegal, etc. In my opinion I got an awesome job in an awesome career for super cheap. I had no money, someone was finally willing to give me a chance based on my ability to work through problems in the application. It was the hardest thing I ever did but well worth it.
- austenallred 9y agoYa, we're kinda like App Academy except not a bootcamp (a longer, more exhaustive CS program), online (so you don't have to move to San Francisco), and with no down-payment (because most of our students just don't have $4k, even for a down-payment).
- Danihan 9y agoPlease add a Java based web development option (ideally with JSF), I'd join in a heartbeat. The web dev is too javascript / front-end centric, and the CS (I'd assume) is too math-centric. Java / JSF / MyFaces is the best of both worlds, imo. No need to write most front-end javascript, 80% of dev time can be spent on business logic.
- austenallred 9y agoThe CS Academy does teach Java. It's our main tool for understanding a lot of the lower-level stuff such as architecture, scaling, etc. We use JavaScript as the front-end web language, for reasons that are likely obvious (as well as React/Redux), and also use JS learn a lot of the data structures/algorithms portion, but Java is our main compiled language.
- Danihan 9y agoDoes it cover JSF?
- austenallred 9y agoNo. We use JavaScript for front-end stuff as that's the native language of the browser. We'll also use a little bit of Spring, so JSF isn't far away, but I wouldn't go into looking for a school that teaches exactly one (relatively small) framework. Look for the fundamental principles and worry about frameworks later.
- Danihan 9y agoFair enough, and I'm no expert, but isn't JSF 2 a formalized / built-in standard, rather than a relatively small framework? I thought most of what made Spring useful and popular was blown away by JSF 2.
- austenallred 9y agoYeah, it's formally a part of the Java platform, and it's widely used, but I'd recommend becoming adept at using several different kinds of frameworks before I single one out. JSF, like all frameworks, will have advantages and disadvantages, and I'm sure there are Spring vs JSF holy wars, but the best advice someone can give a budding programmer is do not get caught up in that until you actually understand the underlying principles.
- michaelper22 9y agoSpring and JSF are to some extent mutually exclusive. I worked on a project that used JSF views with Spring EL that called Spring beans. However, the best practice, according to BalusC on StackOverflow, is to avoid mixing Spring components and JSF managed beans (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18387993/spring-jsf-integration-how-to-inject-a-spring-component-service-in-jsf-managed https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18387993/spring-jsf-inte...).
- Danihan 9y ago
- s73ver 9y agoAren't most bootcamp grads being hired for frontend roles?
- austenallred 9y agoDepends. We're not really a bootcamp, most of our grads are hired for full-stack roles
- Danihan 9y agoAnd this is exactly the issue with most of them. There are a million resources online to learn javascript, that isn't challenging. I want a solid DBA / backend developer bootcamp.