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I read "won't hear a better argument" You are right. I have not studied Capitalism or any other type of economic framework. But would it matter? If you've comm

by tkahn6 16y ago

I read "won't hear a better argument" You are right. I have not studied Capitalism or any other type of economic framework. But would it matter? If you've committed to the idea of our "finest form" of economy, than like any religious person, your opinions are hopeless to evolve. I clearly said I haven't heard a better argument; not that I won't accept any. I used to think a mixed economy was the best economic system (the best of socialism and capitalism). Then I read Wealth of Nations and a bunch of essays from Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal. As I said, since reading those I haven't heard a better argument. Maybe I should point out that at this point, I think your an asshole. But I digress... I am sure the people of developing countries share a different opinion than you. Are they wrong? Again, you have failed to do any research. Just Google "free market africa" This is the first hit: http://www.unu.edu/africa/papers/development/Stambuli3.pdf http://www.unu.edu/africa/papers/development/Stambuli3.pdf You should read it. I fail to see how you can bring yourself to argue an opinion that is not grounded in any research. Even if you argued Marxism after reading Das Kapital, at least you would be informed.

tomlin 16y ago
> Maybe I should point out that at this point, I think your an asshole. But I digress... Sigh. You've come here to fight me, yet there is a well-authored video which highlights the points I am making. They aren't mine, but I understand the logic and outcomes in which the author is illustrating. It is with this my eyes open a little more, I learn a bit more and offer my open-mind to ideas not yet in bloom. The results you want me to find on Google reinforce your point, finds the best practice, but not any alternative. I will take your advice about the quality publications you have recommended; Wealth of Nations, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, etc. Yet, still, I will be an asshole simply because I wish to see your research as only that.
- tkahn6 16y ago
  You've come here to fight me Man, what are you talking about? Are you just trolling? I can't tell if you're being serious. Yet there is a well-authored video which highlights the points I am making. You're not making any points as far as I can tell. Please explain to me what points you are making. I will take your advice about the quality publications you have recommended; Wealth of Nations, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, etc. Are you serious? Wealth of Nations is by Adam Smith. Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal contains essays by Alan Greenspan. I would appreciate it if you would let me know if we are indeed having a serious discussion.
  - tomlin 16y ago
    You're looking for me to bring a wealth of academia and research to the table to match your high knowledge of economics. That isn't going to happen. I've never insisted that I know more or less than the average person. I continue to explain that I am encouraged to see those who wish to seek out more evolved ways of thinking are doing just that -- thinking. Likewise, I do not know a lot about the human body. Yet, I would be extremely happy to hear about a process that would eventually conquer cancer. It seems you want clarification to my personal conclusion that "Capitalism is beneath us as a society.". I say this because in the framework of Capitalism, there must always be an element of misfortune; which isn't just a byproduct, but a prerequisite to it's success.
    - tkahn6 16y ago
      You're looking for me to bring a wealth of academia and research to the table to match your high knowledge of economics. That isn't going to happen. I do not have a high knowledge of economics. I just graduated high school. I'm not asking you to bring any superior academic knowledge to this discussion. I simply want you to do some bare minimum research. You are remaining willfully ignorant in your understanding of economic systems. You have admitted that you have not studied any of this in any detail (whether rigorously or in passing). Likewise, I do not know a lot about the human body. Yet, I would be extremely happy to hear about a process that would eventually conquer cancer. As would I, but I wouldn't get into an argument with someone about cancer research because I have never studied cancer in any depth. I say this because in the framework of Capitalism, there must always be an element of misfortune; which isn't just a byproduct, but a prerequisite to it's success. That is simply not true. The core principal of capitalism is that people engage in mutually beneficial transactions without the threat of physical harm. This is the core idea of the free market. Please go read some literature on this. And I don't mean that in a negative way. You seem genuinely open to new ideas but you seemingly are not willing to seek those new ideas. And whoever is downmodding every reply I post, please explain why. We are engaging in a discussion. The downmod does not exist to express your disagreement with me. You do that in your replies.
      - 16y ago

by tkahn6 16y ago

tomlin 16y ago

> Maybe I should point out that at this point, I think your an asshole. But I digress... Sigh. You've come here to fight me, yet there is a well-authored video which highlights the points I am making. They aren't mine, but I understand the logic and outcomes in which the author is illustrating. It is with this my eyes open a little more, I learn a bit more and offer my open-mind to ideas not yet in bloom. The results you want me to find on Google reinforce your point, finds the best practice, but not any alternative. I will take your advice about the quality publications you have recommended; Wealth of Nations, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, etc. Yet, still, I will be an asshole simply because I wish to see your research as only that.

tkahn6 16y ago
You've come here to fight me Man, what are you talking about? Are you just trolling? I can't tell if you're being serious. Yet there is a well-authored video which highlights the points I am making. You're not making any points as far as I can tell. Please explain to me what points you are making. I will take your advice about the quality publications you have recommended; Wealth of Nations, Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, etc. Are you serious? Wealth of Nations is by Adam Smith. Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal contains essays by Alan Greenspan. I would appreciate it if you would let me know if we are indeed having a serious discussion.
- tomlin 16y ago
  You're looking for me to bring a wealth of academia and research to the table to match your high knowledge of economics. That isn't going to happen. I've never insisted that I know more or less than the average person. I continue to explain that I am encouraged to see those who wish to seek out more evolved ways of thinking are doing just that -- thinking. Likewise, I do not know a lot about the human body. Yet, I would be extremely happy to hear about a process that would eventually conquer cancer. It seems you want clarification to my personal conclusion that "Capitalism is beneath us as a society.". I say this because in the framework of Capitalism, there must always be an element of misfortune; which isn't just a byproduct, but a prerequisite to it's success.
  - tkahn6 16y ago
    You're looking for me to bring a wealth of academia and research to the table to match your high knowledge of economics. That isn't going to happen. I do not have a high knowledge of economics. I just graduated high school. I'm not asking you to bring any superior academic knowledge to this discussion. I simply want you to do some bare minimum research. You are remaining willfully ignorant in your understanding of economic systems. You have admitted that you have not studied any of this in any detail (whether rigorously or in passing). Likewise, I do not know a lot about the human body. Yet, I would be extremely happy to hear about a process that would eventually conquer cancer. As would I, but I wouldn't get into an argument with someone about cancer research because I have never studied cancer in any depth. I say this because in the framework of Capitalism, there must always be an element of misfortune; which isn't just a byproduct, but a prerequisite to it's success. That is simply not true. The core principal of capitalism is that people engage in mutually beneficial transactions without the threat of physical harm. This is the core idea of the free market. Please go read some literature on this. And I don't mean that in a negative way. You seem genuinely open to new ideas but you seemingly are not willing to seek those new ideas. And whoever is downmodding every reply I post, please explain why. We are engaging in a discussion. The downmod does not exist to express your disagreement with me. You do that in your replies.
    - 16y ago