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"Rewrite it in Rust" is the new "Stallman was right" thread. Its an echo chamber of fandom. Over time I've come to despise "evangelism" or any kind. I'm sure R

"Rewrite it in Rust" is the new "Stallman was right" thread. Its an echo chamber of fandom. Over time I've come to despise "evangelism" or any kind. I'm sure Rust is great. I just don't think it's news every time a Rust fan says that its great. YouTube lectures of people actually using it? That would be interesting. Interviews of people actively porting a large C project to Rust. That would be interesting. Rehashing its feature sheet? Not so much.

dikaiosune 9y ago
The author is actually using it, to actually rewrite portions of C projects in it, and writing about their experience doing this in practice. For example, the linked paper is about using Rust at the I/O boundary in an existing, complex system.
- youdontknowtho 9y ago
  Except that the article is actually just the feature sheet of Rust. I would rather the article had been a link to that paper.
  - dikaiosune 9y ago
    uhhhhhh, multiple links in this block on the post: "That’s because I have been working on this subject for a long time now: * I did multiple talks on it * I even co-wrote a paper * I did it both as client and personal work"
    - youdontknowtho 9y ago
      Yes, I saw those links. The article that op linked to though was another Rust feature sheet blog post, though. This was days ago, why do you care?
FRex 9y ago
One of the reasons why I'm super hesitant of learning Rust is the attitude and emotional based opinions of the community. I picked up Python due to my work and I love it and I'd never think I would before trying it. But I also never in my travels seen Python people advertise it negative with "<somelang> SUCKS! FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE! GIT GUD AND USE PYTHONN!" about ANY widespread or niche language but instead they just keep positively gushing over Python: "how clear", "how succinct", "formatted by significant whitespace", "readable", "simple", "pythonic", "wide array of modules available", etc. When someone in one message both recommends Rust and says that it's absolutely impossible to ever write correct programs in C or C++ that are more than few lines long what am I supposed to take away from that? Rust itself uses C++ written LLVM, is it unreliable too then? Seriously... And implicitly, anyone liking C or C++ is an idiot and a bad programmer.

dikaiosune 9y ago

The author is actually using it, to actually rewrite portions of C projects in it, and writing about their experience doing this in practice. For example, the linked paper is about using Rust at the I/O boundary in an existing, complex system.

youdontknowtho 9y ago
Except that the article is actually just the feature sheet of Rust. I would rather the article had been a link to that paper.
- dikaiosune 9y ago
  uhhhhhh, multiple links in this block on the post: "That’s because I have been working on this subject for a long time now: * I did multiple talks on it * I even co-wrote a paper * I did it both as client and personal work"
  - youdontknowtho 9y ago
    Yes, I saw those links. The article that op linked to though was another Rust feature sheet blog post, though. This was days ago, why do you care?

FRex 9y ago

One of the reasons why I'm super hesitant of learning Rust is the attitude and emotional based opinions of the community. I picked up Python due to my work and I love it and I'd never think I would before trying it. But I also never in my travels seen Python people advertise it negative with "<somelang> SUCKS! FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE! GIT GUD AND USE PYTHONN!" about ANY widespread or niche language but instead they just keep positively gushing over Python: "how clear", "how succinct", "formatted by significant whitespace", "readable", "simple", "pythonic", "wide array of modules available", etc. When someone in one message both recommends Rust and says that it's absolutely impossible to ever write correct programs in C or C++ that are more than few lines long what am I supposed to take away from that? Rust itself uses C++ written LLVM, is it unreliable too then? Seriously... And implicitly, anyone liking C or C++ is an idiot and a bad programmer.