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This is sensationalist nonsense and should be voted down immediately. No one is forcing these people to keep their jobs for Uber and them having to live in thei

This is sensationalist nonsense and should be voted down immediately. No one is forcing these people to keep their jobs for Uber and them having to live in their cars has nothing to do with Uber. It has to do with them not making a sustainable income living in one of the most expensive parts of the United States. Take your car, drive is somewhere cheaper and look for a job in an area you can afford to live. Don't shift the blame to Uber.

microwavecamera 9y ago
Uber was misleading drivers with deceptive advertising regarding how much drivers would make. How couldn't you blame Uber? http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/19/technology/uber-settles-driver-lawsuit/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/19/technology/uber-settles-driv... https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/01/23/uber-must-pay-20m-for-luring-drivers-with-inflated-wage-stats/#6bf20dbf191d https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/01/23/uber-mus...
- dkonofalski 9y ago
  ...because no one is forcing these people to continue working for Uber? This article makes it seem like these people have to live in their cars because they're somehow bound to Uber. If they can't get another job, then Uber is income that they wouldn't otherwise have. I don't see how that's Uber's fault.
  - microwavecamera 9y ago
    So it's alright that companies lie and it's the employees fault for not knowing they were being lied too? Brilliant. Another thought, if Uber wasn't completely incompetent in managing it's finances and didn't hemorrhage money like a rich cocaine addict in Bolivia, they could probably afford to pay fair wages.
    - dkonofalski 9y ago
      Umm... they are not Uber employees. They're Uber contractors. I'm not saying that Uber is a saintly company with only good intentions. I'm saying that it's misguided and silly to blame Uber for the fact that this person has to live in his car. Without Uber, he would be getting no income whatsoever and would be living in his car anyways. At the very least, he could drive to another city while Ubering and picking up fares and improve his situation. Blaming Uber is not only wrong but doesn't actually fix his situation at all.
      - microwavecamera 9y ago
        Lets exploit the poor. Awesome.
        dkonofalski 9y ago
        What? So we should blame Uber because some of its contractors are poor? What are you even on about?
        microwavecamera 9y ago
        What am I on about? The new era of the robber barons and how it hurts our entire industry as a whole. I've been in the tech industry for 20 years now and the Ubers of the world make all of us look bad. We shouldn't reward bad behavior or the Machiavellian idea that the end justifies the means. Uber will fail and the new tech bubble will burst. They've proven time and time again that they're incompetent and so far have squandered billions in investments. This will scare investors away from the tech industry just as it happened in the early 2000s. It took years for our industry to recover and here we are again repeating history. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
    - Pilfer 9y ago
      >So it's alright that companies lie and it's the employees fault for not knowing they were being lied too Strawman argument
uoaei 9y ago
Hoo boy, this touched a nerve. How would you stop working for Uber if you couldn't get other jobs? How would you move house if you had no money to do so?
- dkonofalski 9y ago
  The insinuation is that this person has to live in their car because of Uber. If you can't get another job, isn't Uber helping you by giving you some kind of income instead of the other possibility which is 0 income? As for the 2nd question, if your house is your car then shouldn't that be easy? You have money to drive other people around, why wouldn't you have money to drive yourself somewhere?

microwavecamera 9y ago

Uber was misleading drivers with deceptive advertising regarding how much drivers would make. How couldn't you blame Uber? http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/19/technology/uber-settles-driver-lawsuit/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/19/technology/uber-settles-driv... https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/01/23/uber-must-pay-20m-for-luring-drivers-with-inflated-wage-stats/#6bf20dbf191d https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/01/23/uber-mus...

dkonofalski 9y ago
...because no one is forcing these people to continue working for Uber? This article makes it seem like these people have to live in their cars because they're somehow bound to Uber. If they can't get another job, then Uber is income that they wouldn't otherwise have. I don't see how that's Uber's fault.
- microwavecamera 9y ago
  So it's alright that companies lie and it's the employees fault for not knowing they were being lied too? Brilliant. Another thought, if Uber wasn't completely incompetent in managing it's finances and didn't hemorrhage money like a rich cocaine addict in Bolivia, they could probably afford to pay fair wages.
  - dkonofalski 9y ago
    Umm... they are not Uber employees. They're Uber contractors. I'm not saying that Uber is a saintly company with only good intentions. I'm saying that it's misguided and silly to blame Uber for the fact that this person has to live in his car. Without Uber, he would be getting no income whatsoever and would be living in his car anyways. At the very least, he could drive to another city while Ubering and picking up fares and improve his situation. Blaming Uber is not only wrong but doesn't actually fix his situation at all.
    - microwavecamera 9y ago
      Lets exploit the poor. Awesome.
      - dkonofalski 9y ago
        What? So we should blame Uber because some of its contractors are poor? What are you even on about?
        microwavecamera 9y ago
        What am I on about? The new era of the robber barons and how it hurts our entire industry as a whole. I've been in the tech industry for 20 years now and the Ubers of the world make all of us look bad. We shouldn't reward bad behavior or the Machiavellian idea that the end justifies the means. Uber will fail and the new tech bubble will burst. They've proven time and time again that they're incompetent and so far have squandered billions in investments. This will scare investors away from the tech industry just as it happened in the early 2000s. It took years for our industry to recover and here we are again repeating history. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
  - Pilfer 9y ago
    >So it's alright that companies lie and it's the employees fault for not knowing they were being lied too Strawman argument

uoaei 9y ago

Hoo boy, this touched a nerve. How would you stop working for Uber if you couldn't get other jobs? How would you move house if you had no money to do so?

dkonofalski 9y ago
The insinuation is that this person has to live in their car because of Uber. If you can't get another job, isn't Uber helping you by giving you some kind of income instead of the other possibility which is 0 income? As for the 2nd question, if your house is your car then shouldn't that be easy? You have money to drive other people around, why wouldn't you have money to drive yourself somewhere?