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I see this thread is already filling with people who just know better than the experts that this event was some ominous sign of climate change. That is somethin

by nonbel 9y ago

I see this thread is already filling with people who just know better than the experts that this event was some ominous sign of climate change. That is something totally made up by the media and internet: >“Although this is a natural event, and we’re not aware of any link to human-induced climate change, this puts the ice shelf in a very vulnerable position. This is the furthest back that the ice front has been in recorded history. We’re going to be watching very carefully for signs that the rest of the shelf is becoming unstable.” http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/calving/ http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/calving/

nonbel 9y ago
Here is more from tfa: >'Andrew Shepherd, professor of Earth Observation at the University of Leeds, agreed. “Everyone loves a good iceberg, and this one is a corker,” he said. “But despite keeping us waiting for so long, I’m pretty sure that Antarctica won’t be shedding a tear when it’s gone because the continent loses plenty of its ice this way each year, and so it’s really just business as usual!”' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti...
liberte82 9y ago
Scientists will ALWAYS say this about single events. It's impossible to tie a single event to a long term process like climate change. Although I'm not surprised to see this kind of defense from the party that brought a snowball into Congress as proof that climate change isn't occurring.
- nonbel 9y ago
  This seems to be a talking point that people are mindlessly repeating that is wrong in multiple ways. I won't bother with all, but here is the exact same person making a link to a single event regarding the exact same ice shelf: >"And while climate change is accepted to have played a role in the wholesale disintegration of the Larsen A and Larsen B ice shelves, Luckman emphasised that there is no evidence that the calving of the giant iceberg is linked to such processes." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti... This story is somewhat interesting on its own, but it is clear the media and ignorant people on the internet have blown it up into fake news.
  - Oletros 9y ago
    The whole disintegration of Larsen A and B are not a single event like the calving of an iceberg
    - nonbel 9y ago
      The calving of the iceberg was not a single event either. First the rift formed, then it started branching, etc. Anyway, this event is bringing out the worst arguments I have ever seen.

by nonbel 9y ago

nonbel 9y ago

Here is more from tfa: >'Andrew Shepherd, professor of Earth Observation at the University of Leeds, agreed. “Everyone loves a good iceberg, and this one is a corker,” he said. “But despite keeping us waiting for so long, I’m pretty sure that Antarctica won’t be shedding a tear when it’s gone because the continent loses plenty of its ice this way each year, and so it’s really just business as usual!”' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti...

liberte82 9y ago

Scientists will ALWAYS say this about single events. It's impossible to tie a single event to a long term process like climate change. Although I'm not surprised to see this kind of defense from the party that brought a snowball into Congress as proof that climate change isn't occurring.

nonbel 9y ago
This seems to be a talking point that people are mindlessly repeating that is wrong in multiple ways. I won't bother with all, but here is the exact same person making a link to a single event regarding the exact same ice shelf: >"And while climate change is accepted to have played a role in the wholesale disintegration of the Larsen A and Larsen B ice shelves, Luckman emphasised that there is no evidence that the calving of the giant iceberg is linked to such processes." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarcti... This story is somewhat interesting on its own, but it is clear the media and ignorant people on the internet have blown it up into fake news.
- Oletros 9y ago
  The whole disintegration of Larsen A and B are not a single event like the calving of an iceberg
  - nonbel 9y ago
    The calving of the iceberg was not a single event either. First the rift formed, then it started branching, etc. Anyway, this event is bringing out the worst arguments I have ever seen.