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It's the new language that the creator of Scala is now working on.

merb 9y ago
It is what will become Scala V3 (eventually)
systems 9y ago
i thought dotty is a new compiler for scala, not a new language does it break compatibility with current version of scala
- hota_mazi 9y ago
  It's a brand new language that looks like Scala but has its own syntax, which is incompatible with Scala's.
  - felipehummel 9y ago
    That's no true at all. The syntax is pretty similar with few key differences. The idea is for dotty to become Scala 3.0. But, in the meantime, the next Scala 2.* versions will pave the way for 3.0. Meaning to avoid too many breaking changes in 3.0. The above has been said repeatedly by Martin Odersky (creator of Scala) and the folks on the Scala compiler team in talks and discussions.
    - hota_mazi 9y ago
      Martin has made no guarantee of compatibility or even to supply a Scalafix app. The fact you can do this relatively easily today is just a consequence of Dotty being very young. As it evolves and becomes more complex, there is no guarantee that a translation from Scala to Dotty will even be possible to achieve automatically.
      - virtualwhys 9y ago
        > Martin has made no guarantee of compatibility or even to supply a Scalafix app The entire point of scalafix[1](developed by the Scala Center) is to bridge the gap between Scala 2.x and Scala 3/Dotty. Martin talks about it in every Dotty presentation. [1] https://github.com/scalacenter/scalafix https://github.com/scalacenter/scalafix
  - walkingolof 9y ago
    No, Dotty is the next generation Scala compiler, the syntax is overwhelmingly compatible, with new features and some breakage. Just like Go has "gofix", Scala will have "Scalafix", that will automate migration between Scala 2.x (scalac) and Scala 3.x (Dotty)
    - AheadOfTime295 9y ago
      Migration problems can be tricky. An umbrella ticket [1] tracks Spark's migration from Scala 2.11 to 2.12 "Tricky" as in [2] "Spark 1.x's Dataset API runs into subtle source incompatibility problems for Java 8 and Scala 2.12" [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14220 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14220 [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14643 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14643
thechao 9y ago
I've never heard of dotty-the-language before this morning, but have been a long-time dotty user. I was hoping to help antialias the name collision for others. On a different note: I've noticed that HN is starting by to develop the drive-by-I-disagree-voting that Reddit has. That's unfortunate.
- tomku 9y ago
  I'm sure you meant well, but the way you phrased your post made it sound more dismissive about something you didn't care about than helpful. I think that's a far more likely explanation for the downvotes than "HN becoming more like Reddit".
  - thechao 9y ago
    On a reread, I see your point.

merb 9y ago

It is what will become Scala V3 (eventually)

i thought dotty is a new compiler for scala, not a new language does it break compatibility with current version of scala

hota_mazi 9y ago
It's a brand new language that looks like Scala but has its own syntax, which is incompatible with Scala's.
- felipehummel 9y ago
  That's no true at all. The syntax is pretty similar with few key differences. The idea is for dotty to become Scala 3.0. But, in the meantime, the next Scala 2.* versions will pave the way for 3.0. Meaning to avoid too many breaking changes in 3.0. The above has been said repeatedly by Martin Odersky (creator of Scala) and the folks on the Scala compiler team in talks and discussions.
  - hota_mazi 9y ago
    Martin has made no guarantee of compatibility or even to supply a Scalafix app. The fact you can do this relatively easily today is just a consequence of Dotty being very young. As it evolves and becomes more complex, there is no guarantee that a translation from Scala to Dotty will even be possible to achieve automatically.
    - virtualwhys 9y ago
      > Martin has made no guarantee of compatibility or even to supply a Scalafix app The entire point of scalafix[1](developed by the Scala Center) is to bridge the gap between Scala 2.x and Scala 3/Dotty. Martin talks about it in every Dotty presentation. [1] https://github.com/scalacenter/scalafix https://github.com/scalacenter/scalafix
- walkingolof 9y ago
  No, Dotty is the next generation Scala compiler, the syntax is overwhelmingly compatible, with new features and some breakage. Just like Go has "gofix", Scala will have "Scalafix", that will automate migration between Scala 2.x (scalac) and Scala 3.x (Dotty)
  - AheadOfTime295 9y ago
    Migration problems can be tricky. An umbrella ticket [1] tracks Spark's migration from Scala 2.11 to 2.12 "Tricky" as in [2] "Spark 1.x's Dataset API runs into subtle source incompatibility problems for Java 8 and Scala 2.12" [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14220 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14220 [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14643 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-14643

thechao 9y ago

I've never heard of dotty-the-language before this morning, but have been a long-time dotty user. I was hoping to help antialias the name collision for others. On a different note: I've noticed that HN is starting by to develop the drive-by-I-disagree-voting that Reddit has. That's unfortunate.

tomku 9y ago
I'm sure you meant well, but the way you phrased your post made it sound more dismissive about something you didn't care about than helpful. I think that's a far more likely explanation for the downvotes than "HN becoming more like Reddit".
- thechao 9y ago
  On a reread, I see your point.