No, I addressed that: "Nothing against CA either; I really don't like any new world PN." Again, at this level, it's getting subjective. NZ makes some good wine

No, I addressed that: "Nothing against CA either; I really don't like any new world PN." Again, at this level, it's getting subjective. NZ makes some good wine. I think the PN suffers similar detriments that California wine does: too much "whole fruit" or "jammy" character, and sometimes too vegetal like "bell pepper." Some of these might be the producer's choice. Then there are things that are just errors, especially bad handling of the oak.