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Yes, yes! That we should look at other methodologies of our economic structure. An excellent viewpoint and debate starter. The Anti-Capitalism ideology isn't

by tomlin 16y ago

Yes, yes! That we should look at other methodologies of our economic structure. An excellent viewpoint and debate starter. The Anti-Capitalism ideology isn't Socialism or Marxism or Communism. Capitalism isn't working the way society sees it. Capitalism is beneath us as a society.

tkahn6 16y ago
I'd be interested to hear what other economic structures you think are better. I haven't heard a better argument than capitalism. Also, you should note that in America we don't have a capitalist economy - we have a mixed economy.
- tomlin 16y ago
  > I'd be interested to hear what other economic structures you think are better. I never indicated I knew if there were better economic structures; perhaps it is yet to be invented, instead of impossible to fathom. An open-mind which considers a new approach is a first step. I think it is better that we don't attempt to "protect" Capitalism ideology (as you have just done), rather, attempt to refine and always course-correct to something more mature and more stable. Isn't that a fair thing to say?
  - tkahn6 16y ago
    I think it is better that we don't attempt to "protect" Capitalism ideology (as you have just done), rather, attempt to refine and always course-correct to something more mature and more stable. At what point did I 'protect' capitalism? You said it's beneath us as a society and I said that what we have isn't capitalism. The problem is that I don't think you've actually studied capitalism as a moral/economic philosophy (but I could be wrong) so saying "we need to find something more mature and stable" doesn't really have any significance.
    - tomlin 16y ago
      > At what point did I 'protect' capitalism? You didn't make a sign or wave a $ symbol flag. When you say you "haven't heard a better argument", I read "won't hear a better argument". Perhaps you don't mean it that way, in which case, apologies first. Perhaps your studies and intellectual investment would be of less worth if someone were to dare point out any alternative possibilities. When there is talk about a resource-based economy or singularity government, would-be opposers jump in quickly to shoot an idea down rather than see value. > The problem is that I don't think you've actually studied capitalism as a moral/economic philosophy (but I could be wrong) so saying "we need to find something more mature and stable" doesn't really have any significance. You are right. I have not studied Capitalism or any other type of economic framework. But would it matter? If you've committed to the idea of our "finest form" of economy, than like any religious person, your opinions are hopeless to evolve. We see millions suffer across the world as our "best" economical structure fuels its fire on the backs of the uncountable. If everyone were to embrace Capitalism as most modern nations have, Capitalism would have no "grease bin", so to speak. I am sure the people of developing countries share a different opinion than you. Are they wrong?
      - tkahn6 16y ago
        I read "won't hear a better argument" You are right. I have not studied Capitalism or any other type of economic framework. But would it matter? If you've committed to the idea of our "finest form" of economy, than like any religious person, your opinions are hopeless to evolve. I clearly said I haven't heard a better argument; not that I won't accept any. I used to think a mixed economy was the best economic system (the best of socialism and capitalism). Then I read Wealth of Nations and a bunch of essays from Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal. As I said, since reading those I haven't heard a better argument. Maybe I should point out that at this point, I think your an asshole. But I digress... I am sure the people of developing countries share a different opinion than you. Are they wrong? Again, you have failed to do any research. Just Google "free market africa" This is the first hit: http://www.unu.edu/africa/papers/development/Stambuli3.pdf http://www.unu.edu/africa/papers/development/Stambuli3.pdf You should read it. I fail to see how you can bring yourself to argue an opinion that is not grounded in any research. Even if you argued Marxism after reading Das Kapital, at least you would be informed.

by tomlin 16y ago

tkahn6 16y ago

I'd be interested to hear what other economic structures you think are better. I haven't heard a better argument than capitalism. Also, you should note that in America we don't have a capitalist economy - we have a mixed economy.

tomlin 16y ago
> I'd be interested to hear what other economic structures you think are better. I never indicated I knew if there were better economic structures; perhaps it is yet to be invented, instead of impossible to fathom. An open-mind which considers a new approach is a first step. I think it is better that we don't attempt to "protect" Capitalism ideology (as you have just done), rather, attempt to refine and always course-correct to something more mature and more stable. Isn't that a fair thing to say?
- tkahn6 16y ago
  I think it is better that we don't attempt to "protect" Capitalism ideology (as you have just done), rather, attempt to refine and always course-correct to something more mature and more stable. At what point did I 'protect' capitalism? You said it's beneath us as a society and I said that what we have isn't capitalism. The problem is that I don't think you've actually studied capitalism as a moral/economic philosophy (but I could be wrong) so saying "we need to find something more mature and stable" doesn't really have any significance.
  - tomlin 16y ago
    > At what point did I 'protect' capitalism? You didn't make a sign or wave a $ symbol flag. When you say you "haven't heard a better argument", I read "won't hear a better argument". Perhaps you don't mean it that way, in which case, apologies first. Perhaps your studies and intellectual investment would be of less worth if someone were to dare point out any alternative possibilities. When there is talk about a resource-based economy or singularity government, would-be opposers jump in quickly to shoot an idea down rather than see value. > The problem is that I don't think you've actually studied capitalism as a moral/economic philosophy (but I could be wrong) so saying "we need to find something more mature and stable" doesn't really have any significance. You are right. I have not studied Capitalism or any other type of economic framework. But would it matter? If you've committed to the idea of our "finest form" of economy, than like any religious person, your opinions are hopeless to evolve. We see millions suffer across the world as our "best" economical structure fuels its fire on the backs of the uncountable. If everyone were to embrace Capitalism as most modern nations have, Capitalism would have no "grease bin", so to speak. I am sure the people of developing countries share a different opinion than you. Are they wrong?
    - tkahn6 16y ago
      I read "won't hear a better argument" You are right. I have not studied Capitalism or any other type of economic framework. But would it matter? If you've committed to the idea of our "finest form" of economy, than like any religious person, your opinions are hopeless to evolve. I clearly said I haven't heard a better argument; not that I won't accept any. I used to think a mixed economy was the best economic system (the best of socialism and capitalism). Then I read Wealth of Nations and a bunch of essays from Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal. As I said, since reading those I haven't heard a better argument. Maybe I should point out that at this point, I think your an asshole. But I digress... I am sure the people of developing countries share a different opinion than you. Are they wrong? Again, you have failed to do any research. Just Google "free market africa" This is the first hit: http://www.unu.edu/africa/papers/development/Stambuli3.pdf http://www.unu.edu/africa/papers/development/Stambuli3.pdf You should read it. I fail to see how you can bring yourself to argue an opinion that is not grounded in any research. Even if you argued Marxism after reading Das Kapital, at least you would be informed.