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It will take some time until that question can be answered. For some it will likely matter a lot, e.g. engineering or HPC applications that rely heavily on dens
by slizard 9y ago
It will take some time until that question can be answered. For some it will likely matter a lot, e.g. engineering or HPC applications that rely heavily on dense solvers. however, even for non FP-heavy workloads (like integer-heavy stuff say databases) the wider SIMD with the new mask and blend instructions [1] _could_ make a significant difference. Still, in many cases significant difference will likely be seen only after careful tuning!
Also note that Intel is refining their pesky market segmentation game: the full 2x 512-bit FMA/cycle is only available on high-end CPUs, only lower-end it's only 1 FMA/cycle and you still get the extra AVX512 clock throttle hit [2]!
I really like the fact that AMD stayed away from such devil-in-the-details feature-based market segmentation!
[1] https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2013/avx-512-instructions https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2013/avx-512-instruct...
[2] https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Intel-Skylake-SP-Microarchitecture-AVX-512-Performance.jpg https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Inte...
- dman 9y agoWide availability of an ISA creates the economic opportunity for people to hand tune / optimize for it. I wonder if Intel is shooting themselves in the foot by creating instructions that are available only in a tiny fraction of shipping CPUs. AMD would have had a much harder time with Ryzen if AVX 512 was shipping in volume on a bulk of the chips and if a wide variety of software had been written to exploit it.
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- sliken 9y agoDepends on the size. Sure AVX512 is great until either A) you thermally throttle or B) you cache miss. Keep in mind that AMD has 8 memory channels vs Intel's 6. So if you need to hit main memory (randomly or sequentially), AMD has a decent edge.
- slizard 9y agoAgreed, see my point below (/item?id=14747906).