1) Did New Math actually try to do those things, or did you just bring it up to poison the well against any alternative pedagogies? 2) Did New Math fail becaus

1) Did New Math actually try to do those things, or did you just bring it up to poison the well against any alternative pedagogies? 2) Did New Math fail because of poor results or because of popular revolt? (Would New Coke have failed if there was never any such thing as the original Coke?) 2a) If New Math did actually have poor results, was it because it hewed too closely to the goals I brought up, or because of other issues? 3) Memorizing times tables clearly didn't work, or we wouldn't be having this discussion 4) I never said that drilling times tables isn't important, so I'm not sure what your last sentence is in response to