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Please look at my post again, I said GFW _helped_ to create the recent economic development. Of course the economy of a country like China can not be improved s

Please look at my post again, I said GFW _helped_ to create the recent economic development. Of course the economy of a country like China can not be improved single-handedly by a system or by a single sector. I further pointed out that GFW ensured that all core Internet infrastructures used in China is designed/developed in China, that led to the creation of a Dev community with millions of experienced engineers. Do you believe that such a professional community is a huge asset for a developing country?

mikeash 9y ago
How could it help to create something that was created long before it? As I said in my original comment, the best you could say is that the GFW helped sustain it recently, which seems like it might be what you're actually trying to say here.
- dis-sys 9y ago
  The boom of China's Internet sector didn't happen until ~2008.
  - mikeash 9y ago
    I would not interpret "one of the most dramatic periods of economic development in history" as referring to the boom of China's internet sector starting in 2008. If you intend to give credit to the GWF for that particular thing, then by all means do so. But that is not at all what I got from your original comment, nor your first reply.
    - dis-sys 9y ago
      >I would not interpret "one of the most dramatic periods of economic development in history" as referring to the boom of China's internet sector starting in 2008. The economic development in the last decade can be safely regarded as the most dramatic period in history, it added ~40% of US GDP in that period. The Internet sector is of course one of the major driving forces for that. > If you intend to give credit to the GWF for that particular thing, then by all means do so. But that is not at all what I got from your original comment, nor your first reply. Sorry to get you confused but it is pretty clear to me that 1) GFW is being built/maintained as a tool for protectionism agendas, 2) it blocked most western Internet services to allow Chinese Internet sector to grow faster in the last decade, 3) with such help from the GFW, the Chinese Internet sector managed to get to where it is now and helped to fuel the economic growth in that period.

mikeash 9y ago

How could it help to create something that was created long before it? As I said in my original comment, the best you could say is that the GFW helped sustain it recently, which seems like it might be what you're actually trying to say here.

dis-sys 9y ago
The boom of China's Internet sector didn't happen until ~2008.
- mikeash 9y ago
  I would not interpret "one of the most dramatic periods of economic development in history" as referring to the boom of China's internet sector starting in 2008. If you intend to give credit to the GWF for that particular thing, then by all means do so. But that is not at all what I got from your original comment, nor your first reply.
  - dis-sys 9y ago
    >I would not interpret "one of the most dramatic periods of economic development in history" as referring to the boom of China's internet sector starting in 2008. The economic development in the last decade can be safely regarded as the most dramatic period in history, it added ~40% of US GDP in that period. The Internet sector is of course one of the major driving forces for that. > If you intend to give credit to the GWF for that particular thing, then by all means do so. But that is not at all what I got from your original comment, nor your first reply. Sorry to get you confused but it is pretty clear to me that 1) GFW is being built/maintained as a tool for protectionism agendas, 2) it blocked most western Internet services to allow Chinese Internet sector to grow faster in the last decade, 3) with such help from the GFW, the Chinese Internet sector managed to get to where it is now and helped to fuel the economic growth in that period.