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Whatever next? Have American AV companies been "Working with American Intelligence"? That would be just as shocking... ;)
by marcusjt 9y ago
Whatever next? Have American AV companies been "Working with American Intelligence"? That would be just as shocking... ;)
- lostboys67 9y agoI suspect the penalties for not playing ball are more severe in Russia
- masmullin 9y agoIn soviet Russia, severe ball plays you!
- cat199 9y agoIn Putins Russia, westerners use antiquated soviet metaphors in to maintain a false sense of superiority and unipolar status quo disclaimer: I like soviet russia jokes
- lostboys67 9y agoTo be serous Putin's and old school Chekist
- lostboys67 9y agoAnd the rootless capitalist kulak falls out of the window accidently :-(
- pjc50 9y agoThanks to the wonders of the free market, you can choose which global intelligence service you want your software to be compromised to! (I'm not even sure if this is a joke)
- LarryPage 9y agoOr you can put off such decisions, and be compromised by all!
- kurthr 9y agoWhat's (also not?) shocking is that huge swath of America and the rest of the world doesn't know this and just thinks... those nice people at XXX installed that wonderful virus checker for free on my new PC. Remember the crap you remove from your uncle's computer over Christmas... and that he's was a full bird colonel with links to all of his old buddies on FB who think spear fishing involves flippers.
- XzetaU8 9y agoahem... http://www.computerworld.com/article/2521809/government-it/nsa-helped-with-windows-7-development.html http://www.computerworld.com/article/2521809/government-it/n...
- zeep 9y agoWe know that Google and Apple are working with the American Intelligence and they could be considered AV companies when you look at some of their mobile OSes features...
- PhantomGremlin 9y agoWe know that Google and Apple are working with the American Intelligence Citation needed.
- zeep 9y agoThey implemented NSA's PRISM program... that must have taken some work initially, if not continually. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants...
- PhantomGremlin 9y agoThat document doesn't make an overwhelming case for Google or Apple "working with" intelligence agencies. But I haven't read the original Powerpoint, so maybe I'm simply ignorant of the facts. As opposed to the likes of AT&T and Verizon. Which we know were actively cooperating with the NSA. More likely is that perhaps individual Apple or Google employees were suborned, or the NSA took advantage of weaknesses. E.g. IIRC Google wasn't encrypting traffic between its data centers, Apple had a "goto fail" bug, etc. Why bother forcing companies to cooperate if you can instead take what you want without asking? Let me ask you this: Do you think that Eric Schmidt or Sergey Brin or Larry Page or Steve Jobs or Tim Cook said something like "OK, lets give the NSA what they want." I don't think so. More likely, if Google and Apple knew at all, they simply acquiesced to what they thought were legal court orders.
- codedokode 9y agoYes, they try to make their users store the data in the "cloud". Maybe they do it in hope to get profit but maybe NSA wants to keep the data from people around the world on servers in US. Google should allow users to use their own "cloud".