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No, not really. I have a high-end laptop from Asus (no plastic etc) that I installed ubuntu on. It would overheat, have issues with the drivers and just simply

No, not really. I have a high-end laptop from Asus (no plastic etc) that I installed ubuntu on. It would overheat, have issues with the drivers and just simply would consume more power. It'd maybe last for an hour, while on windows same processes it would last for two and a half. No matter how many hacks I had to google for and how many hacks I tried, still nothing worked. You've wasted six hours, I've wasted a month trying to optimize my laptop to work at 50% of what it did. I have had a Mac as well that I sold in a heartbeat, because it required an upgrade that I simply was not willing to pay for. For less than double of the amount of money it required for an upgrade I got 32GB of RAM, 512SSD and a neat i7 processor, zero plastics. Mac would also overheat and would also crash, your point? Plus the support in the region where I am located is ZERO. No I'm definitely not going to miss the keychain as I have last pass that handles just about everything nowadays. I also work on Python, postgres, ansible, redis (which has limited support on windows but still works). Not sure where your problem is. So there's also the other side of the coin, plus your isolated case + opinion does not prove the "ZERO quality" statement, just like mine doesn't that's it's good.

apexalpha 9y ago
>It would overheat, have issues with the drivers and just simply would consume more power. This is hardly Linux's fault. ASUS just didn't bother writing (proper) drivers. I have a HP laptop that has support for RHEL, and therefor Linux distro's in general. I only had to install TLP for power management and I get the same battery on Ubuntu as on Win10.
- sitepodmatt 9y ago
  Asus Zenbook UX330C - Ubuntu 16.04 64bit / stock kernel / i3wm - No TLP or power tweaks or additional powertools - 88.97% remaining 8hr30mins - and that's pretty accurate. I think you just have a bad SKU of a laptop if Linux gives you 1hr and Windows only 2.5hrs.
  - sitepodmatt 9y ago
    Down to 76% now, so pretty accurate. That with Chrome with several tabs, and a GPU/CPU heavy application called Slack/electron running. Message to OP try 16.04.2 LTS (or a later version) and I think you'll find very different results with Asus laptops and Ubuntu.
    - bkovacev 9y ago
      That's actually amazing, lucky you! I'll give the new LTS version a go for sure as I still love ubuntu!
- gambiting 9y ago
  "This is hardly Linux's fault. <INSERT_MANUFACTURER_NAME_HERE> just didn't bother writing (proper) drivers." The thing is, as a customer, after a certain point I just don't give a crap. Like, when I was a teenager it was super fun to spend entire days fixing esotheric problems with hardware and rebuilding the kernel to suit my needs, but nowadays I want to hit the power button and work. Linux is not that, at least not for me, I do use Mint daily on an older Dell laptop and that is 90% fine but for any "serious" development I would always use my Windows machine + VS.
  - xur17 9y ago
    When I buy a computer I specifically choose one with good linux support rather than buying a random computer and hope it works properly. I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon, and I've had a Lenovo T430s, along with a Lenovo T61. All of them worked great.

apexalpha 9y ago

>It would overheat, have issues with the drivers and just simply would consume more power. This is hardly Linux's fault. ASUS just didn't bother writing (proper) drivers. I have a HP laptop that has support for RHEL, and therefor Linux distro's in general. I only had to install TLP for power management and I get the same battery on Ubuntu as on Win10.

sitepodmatt 9y ago
Asus Zenbook UX330C - Ubuntu 16.04 64bit / stock kernel / i3wm - No TLP or power tweaks or additional powertools - 88.97% remaining 8hr30mins - and that's pretty accurate. I think you just have a bad SKU of a laptop if Linux gives you 1hr and Windows only 2.5hrs.
- sitepodmatt 9y ago
  Down to 76% now, so pretty accurate. That with Chrome with several tabs, and a GPU/CPU heavy application called Slack/electron running. Message to OP try 16.04.2 LTS (or a later version) and I think you'll find very different results with Asus laptops and Ubuntu.
  - bkovacev 9y ago
    That's actually amazing, lucky you! I'll give the new LTS version a go for sure as I still love ubuntu!
gambiting 9y ago
"This is hardly Linux's fault. <INSERT_MANUFACTURER_NAME_HERE> just didn't bother writing (proper) drivers." The thing is, as a customer, after a certain point I just don't give a crap. Like, when I was a teenager it was super fun to spend entire days fixing esotheric problems with hardware and rebuilding the kernel to suit my needs, but nowadays I want to hit the power button and work. Linux is not that, at least not for me, I do use Mint daily on an older Dell laptop and that is 90% fine but for any "serious" development I would always use my Windows machine + VS.
- xur17 9y ago
  When I buy a computer I specifically choose one with good linux support rather than buying a random computer and hope it works properly. I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon, and I've had a Lenovo T430s, along with a Lenovo T61. All of them worked great.