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> You can't take the bad guys money, knowing full well what it cost you AND complain about it. So basically, if the problem is endemic, you're screwed and you

> You can't take the bad guys money, knowing full well what it cost you AND complain about it. So basically, if the problem is endemic, you're screwed and you should be happy about it.

owebmaster 9y ago
Non-white/poor men are rejected by the women they would like to have a relationship due to prejudice and racism, this is also endemic. But nobody cares, because female tears > male tears. But women and men are bad as equals.
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  That is not even in the same ZIP code. Deciding who to go into business with should be a purely logical decision based on data, gut instinct about the business and the person, and the various innumerable things that a VC investor looks for. Deciding who your romantic partners are is purely subjective based upon the tastes of an individual, and yes that includes women's tastes too.
  - owebmaster 9y ago
    I think that you rationalize one kind of relationship and romanticize the other just to favor your opinion and I could do the opposite but we can also treat both as social relationships with allegedly mutual interest involved.
    - FussyZeus 9y ago
      There is not even a comparison here. One is how you make money, the other is how you find happiness in whatever form that takes for you. I'm not responding again, this is an unbelievably stupid comparison.
      - owebmaster 9y ago
        So money should flows with no barriers but love/affection isn't allowed? I find your reasoning despicable.
zaptheimpaler 9y ago
You are putting words in my mouth. The problem is powerful people get away with a lot of shit, and the solution is to publicly expose them so they lose face, or AT LEAST stop doing business with them. If someone continues to do business (and thus helps) with a bad actor, that action of doing business and taking money speaks much louder than any words they may have. If you genuinely care about sexual harassment but you still take the money, the net effect of that is the bad guy gets another portfolio company and grows stronger. It conveys a childish attitude - a wish for the world to be perfect while taking actions only in your interest, that help the bad guy in this case. All talk and no action doesn't freaking help anyone, except perhaps the authors reputation. As a society we are all supposed to applaud these people as heroes? Sorry I will save my applause for those who take action - the others have my sympathy the same as millions of other people dealing with bad people.
- cbsmith 9y ago
  > If you genuinely care about sexual harassment but you still take the money, the net effect of that is the bad guy gets another portfolio company and grows stronger. It conveys a childish attitude - a wish for the world to be perfect while taking actions only in your interest, that help the bad guy in this case. I'm sorry, but what you are describing seems, if not childish, incredibly naïve. It presumes a scenario where there is always ample access to opportunity without facing sexual harassment.

> You can't take the bad guys money, knowing full well what it cost you AND complain about it. So basically, if the problem is endemic, you're screwed and you should be happy about it.

owebmaster 9y ago

Non-white/poor men are rejected by the women they would like to have a relationship due to prejudice and racism, this is also endemic. But nobody cares, because female tears > male tears. But women and men are bad as equals.

FussyZeus 9y ago
That is not even in the same ZIP code. Deciding who to go into business with should be a purely logical decision based on data, gut instinct about the business and the person, and the various innumerable things that a VC investor looks for. Deciding who your romantic partners are is purely subjective based upon the tastes of an individual, and yes that includes women's tastes too.
- owebmaster 9y ago
  I think that you rationalize one kind of relationship and romanticize the other just to favor your opinion and I could do the opposite but we can also treat both as social relationships with allegedly mutual interest involved.
  - FussyZeus 9y ago
    There is not even a comparison here. One is how you make money, the other is how you find happiness in whatever form that takes for you. I'm not responding again, this is an unbelievably stupid comparison.
    - owebmaster 9y ago
      So money should flows with no barriers but love/affection isn't allowed? I find your reasoning despicable.

zaptheimpaler 9y ago

You are putting words in my mouth. The problem is powerful people get away with a lot of shit, and the solution is to publicly expose them so they lose face, or AT LEAST stop doing business with them. If someone continues to do business (and thus helps) with a bad actor, that action of doing business and taking money speaks much louder than any words they may have. If you genuinely care about sexual harassment but you still take the money, the net effect of that is the bad guy gets another portfolio company and grows stronger. It conveys a childish attitude - a wish for the world to be perfect while taking actions only in your interest, that help the bad guy in this case. All talk and no action doesn't freaking help anyone, except perhaps the authors reputation. As a society we are all supposed to applaud these people as heroes? Sorry I will save my applause for those who take action - the others have my sympathy the same as millions of other people dealing with bad people.

cbsmith 9y ago
> If you genuinely care about sexual harassment but you still take the money, the net effect of that is the bad guy gets another portfolio company and grows stronger. It conveys a childish attitude - a wish for the world to be perfect while taking actions only in your interest, that help the bad guy in this case. I'm sorry, but what you are describing seems, if not childish, incredibly naïve. It presumes a scenario where there is always ample access to opportunity without facing sexual harassment.