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i'm not convinced the OP is without blame and just tries to shove it onto them. "Also, "We aren't going to argue with you on this point.". How old are we, 12?"

i'm not convinced the OP is without blame and just tries to shove it onto them. "Also, "We aren't going to argue with you on this point.". How old are we, 12?" i could argue that a 12 year old loves to argue about how unfair things are and how his demands have to be met. I'm with whoever wrote this part. He saves everyone time by outright saying that there is no point in it. That's a more mature thing to do, actually. Arguing around is, in absolutely most cases, a collosal waste of time, because people usually aren't interested in learning or understanding something, but in "being right". What i find bad, though, is that they wasted OPs time. That being said, we actually know pretty much nothing about the whole situation and there is reason to assume that the OP just wants them to look bad.

charlesdm 9y ago
If I bothered asking you whether X would be accepted onto your platform, and you said yes, I would find it pretty amateuristic to then come back (once an integration has been made) and ask "why exactly should we let you onto our platform"? Yes, you're always at the mercy of the platform holder and in the end they can do with it whatever they want, and maybe I'm old school on this, but giving your word on something still means something to me. If someone tells me they will do X (in business) and they don't end up honoring said deal due to unreasonable behavior then I will refuse to do business with them in the future. And I will let people know who ask me about it. Maybe it's something cultural since I'm not American, but I've noticed US companies to often act like this in various situations. Many, frankly, do not care about relationships. I find this whole thing as appaling as the recent interaction that I've had with a company where we integrated their complete free API, and once the app we integrated it in started getting proper traction, they wanted us to pay for it ("collaborate more closely"). In this example they clearly advertise it as a free API but will threaten to shut access off if you don't pay. Obviously we're promptly removing everything from our app + they're losing DAUs (which are also important to them) because of it.
- forthefuture 9y ago
  > If I bothered asking you whether X would be accepted onto your platform, and you said yes, I would find it pretty amateuristic to then come back (once an integration has been made) and ask "why exactly should we let you onto our platform"? The difference between this and what actually happened is that the Company has no way of knowing if something is novel or not before it exists. When asked if someone could start building something they said sure. When asked if what he/she built was good enough they said no. These are not inconsistent. It's such a weird sense of entitlement that because OP spent time on something he/she deserves to be rewarded. The company very obviously expected something that wasn't exactly the same as the thing that already exists. When that was not what they got, they responded understandably.
- MrYellowP 9y ago
  Forming an opinion like this, based on assumptions due to lack of information, isn't a way to move forward. Do you want me to review what we have?

charlesdm 9y ago

If I bothered asking you whether X would be accepted onto your platform, and you said yes, I would find it pretty amateuristic to then come back (once an integration has been made) and ask "why exactly should we let you onto our platform"? Yes, you're always at the mercy of the platform holder and in the end they can do with it whatever they want, and maybe I'm old school on this, but giving your word on something still means something to me. If someone tells me they will do X (in business) and they don't end up honoring said deal due to unreasonable behavior then I will refuse to do business with them in the future. And I will let people know who ask me about it. Maybe it's something cultural since I'm not American, but I've noticed US companies to often act like this in various situations. Many, frankly, do not care about relationships. I find this whole thing as appaling as the recent interaction that I've had with a company where we integrated their complete free API, and once the app we integrated it in started getting proper traction, they wanted us to pay for it ("collaborate more closely"). In this example they clearly advertise it as a free API but will threaten to shut access off if you don't pay. Obviously we're promptly removing everything from our app + they're losing DAUs (which are also important to them) because of it.

forthefuture 9y ago
> If I bothered asking you whether X would be accepted onto your platform, and you said yes, I would find it pretty amateuristic to then come back (once an integration has been made) and ask "why exactly should we let you onto our platform"? The difference between this and what actually happened is that the Company has no way of knowing if something is novel or not before it exists. When asked if someone could start building something they said sure. When asked if what he/she built was good enough they said no. These are not inconsistent. It's such a weird sense of entitlement that because OP spent time on something he/she deserves to be rewarded. The company very obviously expected something that wasn't exactly the same as the thing that already exists. When that was not what they got, they responded understandably.
MrYellowP 9y ago
Forming an opinion like this, based on assumptions due to lack of information, isn't a way to move forward. Do you want me to review what we have?