> I would hesitate to call something Secure unless some major pen test effort were engaged to try to break it. Precisely. On another domain: "My crypto algorit

> I would hesitate to call something Secure unless some major pen test effort were engaged to try to break it. Precisely. On another domain: "My crypto algorithm has never been broken, it is secure". No it is not, it's just too irrelevant for anyone to be interested in auditing it.