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I can't understand the number of people on this thread who appear to be very tech-savvy, but don't sympathise with your issues. I've been off windows for sever

by dm319 9y ago

I can't understand the number of people on this thread who appear to be very tech-savvy, but don't sympathise with your issues. I've been off windows for several years, but recently needed to install Windows 10 on a machine for a family member. I ran into two utterly frustrating issues. The first was no ethernet after moving the machine to their house (after reinstalling all sorts of drivers I discovered it was due to assigned IP addresses and the fast-shutdown feature of Windows). The second was random crashes between 30mins and 1hour after boot up. Of course, the occasional issue on linux occurs (though not really at this scale) - but what is worse is that you aren't given the tools or the means to troubleshoot them. There were at least 3 or 4 published articles about the second problem (which was due to a failing anniversary update - also difficult to troubleshoot as it doesn't show up as a process)- but none of them were actually useful for troubleshooting - they just gave '7 things you can do...', one of which was rebooting... (here's an example of one https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-keeps-freezing-heres-how-fix-problem https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-anniversary-update... - they are useless!) I think we need to define a new disease because we are both clearly suffering from it: Post-Windows Traumatic Stress Disorder Symptoms: unexpected and disproportionate rage at slightest OS attempt to override what they are doing or present them with adverts. occasional bouts of unexplained anger Signs: weary-looking. withdraws when presented with Windows laptop. Investigations: while undergoing windows update process, patient demonstrates strong negative emotional signs, i.e. sobbing, aggression Treatment: if caught early, complete abstinence from windows. After several years they may start to consider trying out the latest version because it apparently forgoes the need for Windows. this is the point of relapse for most people. if caught late (i.e. >10 years exposure), the prognosis is poor. you can try flooding therapy with Windows, complete abstinence from linux/MacOSX. eventually they may accept the subordinate position to their operating system and be able to share their happy experience of windows with their peers.

staofbur 9y ago
25 years windows here. I suspect it is some variety of Stockholm syndrome or the fact that several years of "problem attrition" as I call it numbs you to the fact that it isn't a routine thing facing weird issues every day. These are accepted as the norm in windows development teams. The hilarious thing is the occasional thing I get which is "what do you mean it only too ten minutes?" because people are trained to think that certain things take at least a day and then subconsciously avoid doing them because they don't want to have to explain where that time is going. I'm going to write a book on this one day. As for Linux issues, the ONLY issue I've had this year so far is duplicity consuming too much RAM and crashing on a filesystem with tens of thousands of inodes used. This was a relatively easy fix as well. A two line python change. I haven't submitted it yet as a patch because they patched it upstream already when someone else fixed it. Just waiting for it to trickle down to the vendor's repos.
- dm319 9y ago
  Yes please do write a book on it. I do have a slightly strange angst towards Windows - I feel somewhat cheated of my time. I used to reinstall Windows every 6 months just to stop it slowing down, and unlike other OSs where I can script the reinstall/updates, it took a whole day. To think that all that time I could have been using Ubuntu (my primary work isn't in IT, and I still use Ubuntu) - Stockholm syndrome is probably the right term, or maybe being in an abusive relationship that was steadily getting worse. I'm probably lying if I said I haven't had a linux problem for 4 years. But nothing major actually springs to mind...

by dm319 9y ago

staofbur 9y ago

25 years windows here. I suspect it is some variety of Stockholm syndrome or the fact that several years of "problem attrition" as I call it numbs you to the fact that it isn't a routine thing facing weird issues every day. These are accepted as the norm in windows development teams. The hilarious thing is the occasional thing I get which is "what do you mean it only too ten minutes?" because people are trained to think that certain things take at least a day and then subconsciously avoid doing them because they don't want to have to explain where that time is going. I'm going to write a book on this one day. As for Linux issues, the ONLY issue I've had this year so far is duplicity consuming too much RAM and crashing on a filesystem with tens of thousands of inodes used. This was a relatively easy fix as well. A two line python change. I haven't submitted it yet as a patch because they patched it upstream already when someone else fixed it. Just waiting for it to trickle down to the vendor's repos.

dm319 9y ago
Yes please do write a book on it. I do have a slightly strange angst towards Windows - I feel somewhat cheated of my time. I used to reinstall Windows every 6 months just to stop it slowing down, and unlike other OSs where I can script the reinstall/updates, it took a whole day. To think that all that time I could have been using Ubuntu (my primary work isn't in IT, and I still use Ubuntu) - Stockholm syndrome is probably the right term, or maybe being in an abusive relationship that was steadily getting worse. I'm probably lying if I said I haven't had a linux problem for 4 years. But nothing major actually springs to mind...