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Yes, like you are winning the argument by double down-voting my post without giving a word of reasoning...

imron 9y ago
You can't downvote people who reply to you, so more likely is that rather than being 'double downvoted' by someone, multiple people find your argument unpersuasive.
- 68c12c16 9y ago
  thanks for giving me that information... Well, I noticed there had been a pattern for my multiple posts on this topic that, for several times, each time when a post was downvoted, it was double downvoted... So either it was a very synchronized move by several independent minds, or more likely, it was from a same mind who operates several accounts... Edit 1: I personally would not mind at all that any of my posts has been downvoted -- and if the person would like to provide any reasoning for his downvoting, then that would be better...After all, the whole point is not to win over your opponent but to find some thing that is closer to the truth and justice -- if there is any... But manipulating the visibility of other people's words by casting multiple downvotes by a same individual is sheer disgusting and does not make any sense to prove any point...as if that is a way of finding out truth and justice, then truth and justice would be equivalent to registering and manipulating more accounts than your opponents'...this reduces the human talent of reasoning to a series of steps of mechanical movement...it is a waste of his own life, as well as his audience's time...
  - aninhumer 9y ago
    I downvoted your initial post because, even if I don't think information restriction is right, I don't think it's on the same moral level as slavery. And additionally, modern archeologists don't believe the workers constructing the pyramids were slaves as such. They were citizens working for the state. In some theories, the arrangement is arguably a form of slavery, but I think we'd usually call the arrangement serfdom, and consider it differently in a historical context. And I downvoted your subsequent posts because I always downvote people complaining about downvotes. It's offtopic, and usually pointless.
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    - 68c12c16 9y ago
      Thanks for letting me know about that, and kindly took the time to provide your reasoning to justify your downvoting... Well, as I previously stated, that there were multiple concurrent downvotings cast to my multiple posts on this topic, all in a short period of time, and then there weren't many downvotings afterwards...this well synchronized pattern, occurring multiple times, would make one to think, there is a certain level of dependencies behind these actions (and in short, from a statistical point of view, a normal distribution can be normal only because its data are independent -- and by standard normal distribution, we could maximize our information output -- and I thought that is the goal of this forum)... There had been known information manipulation effected by the Chinese government over many information outlets even outside that country -- so combined with my previously stated observation, I have enough reason to doubt that the coordinated downvoting is a manipulated result...even if there is only one downvote from you -- as there are more than two downvotings, without giving a single word of counter-argument, until your post.... As for the second point, either "slavery" or "serfdom" is only a term, used to describe the situation of severe economic inequality in a society...and this inequality, and information manipulation are my argument points -- actually, I am more interested in the current situation in China than that in the ancient Egypt... As for the third point, > modern archeologists don't believe the workers > constructing the pyramids were slaves as such do you have more hard evidences? In an academic setting, we always try to compose novel theories -- they may be correct, and they may be wrong...I just feel we should have more evidences in order to prove any point have a long lasting truth in it, but not just by a single study... Lastly, it's okay for you to downvote my post about the fact that my posts were downvoated...even if you are going to downvote that based on the sole reason that you took it for complaining or so, I am still going to voice out my observation there...
  - imron 9y ago
    > So either it was a very synchronized move by several independent minds, or more likely, it was from a same mind who operates several accounts... The latter seems unlikely. You can't downvote until you've accumulated 500 karma (might even be higher now). That means that in order for someone you replied to downvote you twice, they'd need two separate 500+ karma accounts in addition to their main account (which they wouldn't be able to use to downvote you from). That's a lot of work just to be petty in the case someone online disagrees with you. If multiple posts of yours are receiving multiple downvotes, then some reflection might be in order before casting aspersions elsewhere, because it's likely the posts that are problematic. (And complaining about downvotes is almost guaranteed to get you further downvotes).
    - 68c12c16 9y ago
      > That's a lot of work just to be petty in > the case someone online disagrees with you. I am really okay if someone disagrees with me and downvotes me...After all, I do not make a living based on the HN karma points in my account... But for the reason that I stated in my previous two posts, I feel I have some reason to doubt this could be an act of information manipulation from personnel funded by the Chinese government especially for that purpose...For instance, some of those manipulations are described in, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party and https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c.pdf https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c.pdf and if there were indeed government resources behind this, multiple accounts that each has 500 karma points are nothing...
      - imron 9y ago
        > and if there were indeed government resources behind this, multiple accounts that each has 500 karma points are nothing... And if that was indeed the case you would also expect other replies critical of China and the Chinese government to be downvoted to a similar degree, and yet that has not happened in this thread. Why single you out in particular?
        68c12c16 9y ago

You can't downvote people who reply to you, so more likely is that rather than being 'double downvoted' by someone, multiple people find your argument unpersuasive.

68c12c16 9y ago
thanks for giving me that information... Well, I noticed there had been a pattern for my multiple posts on this topic that, for several times, each time when a post was downvoted, it was double downvoted... So either it was a very synchronized move by several independent minds, or more likely, it was from a same mind who operates several accounts... Edit 1: I personally would not mind at all that any of my posts has been downvoted -- and if the person would like to provide any reasoning for his downvoting, then that would be better...After all, the whole point is not to win over your opponent but to find some thing that is closer to the truth and justice -- if there is any... But manipulating the visibility of other people's words by casting multiple downvotes by a same individual is sheer disgusting and does not make any sense to prove any point...as if that is a way of finding out truth and justice, then truth and justice would be equivalent to registering and manipulating more accounts than your opponents'...this reduces the human talent of reasoning to a series of steps of mechanical movement...it is a waste of his own life, as well as his audience's time...
- aninhumer 9y ago
  I downvoted your initial post because, even if I don't think information restriction is right, I don't think it's on the same moral level as slavery. And additionally, modern archeologists don't believe the workers constructing the pyramids were slaves as such. They were citizens working for the state. In some theories, the arrangement is arguably a form of slavery, but I think we'd usually call the arrangement serfdom, and consider it differently in a historical context. And I downvoted your subsequent posts because I always downvote people complaining about downvotes. It's offtopic, and usually pointless.
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  - 68c12c16 9y ago
    Thanks for letting me know about that, and kindly took the time to provide your reasoning to justify your downvoting... Well, as I previously stated, that there were multiple concurrent downvotings cast to my multiple posts on this topic, all in a short period of time, and then there weren't many downvotings afterwards...this well synchronized pattern, occurring multiple times, would make one to think, there is a certain level of dependencies behind these actions (and in short, from a statistical point of view, a normal distribution can be normal only because its data are independent -- and by standard normal distribution, we could maximize our information output -- and I thought that is the goal of this forum)... There had been known information manipulation effected by the Chinese government over many information outlets even outside that country -- so combined with my previously stated observation, I have enough reason to doubt that the coordinated downvoting is a manipulated result...even if there is only one downvote from you -- as there are more than two downvotings, without giving a single word of counter-argument, until your post.... As for the second point, either "slavery" or "serfdom" is only a term, used to describe the situation of severe economic inequality in a society...and this inequality, and information manipulation are my argument points -- actually, I am more interested in the current situation in China than that in the ancient Egypt... As for the third point, > modern archeologists don't believe the workers > constructing the pyramids were slaves as such do you have more hard evidences? In an academic setting, we always try to compose novel theories -- they may be correct, and they may be wrong...I just feel we should have more evidences in order to prove any point have a long lasting truth in it, but not just by a single study... Lastly, it's okay for you to downvote my post about the fact that my posts were downvoated...even if you are going to downvote that based on the sole reason that you took it for complaining or so, I am still going to voice out my observation there...
- imron 9y ago
  > So either it was a very synchronized move by several independent minds, or more likely, it was from a same mind who operates several accounts... The latter seems unlikely. You can't downvote until you've accumulated 500 karma (might even be higher now). That means that in order for someone you replied to downvote you twice, they'd need two separate 500+ karma accounts in addition to their main account (which they wouldn't be able to use to downvote you from). That's a lot of work just to be petty in the case someone online disagrees with you. If multiple posts of yours are receiving multiple downvotes, then some reflection might be in order before casting aspersions elsewhere, because it's likely the posts that are problematic. (And complaining about downvotes is almost guaranteed to get you further downvotes).
  - 68c12c16 9y ago
    > That's a lot of work just to be petty in > the case someone online disagrees with you. I am really okay if someone disagrees with me and downvotes me...After all, I do not make a living based on the HN karma points in my account... But for the reason that I stated in my previous two posts, I feel I have some reason to doubt this could be an act of information manipulation from personnel funded by the Chinese government especially for that purpose...For instance, some of those manipulations are described in, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party and https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c.pdf https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c.pdf and if there were indeed government resources behind this, multiple accounts that each has 500 karma points are nothing...
    - imron 9y ago
      > and if there were indeed government resources behind this, multiple accounts that each has 500 karma points are nothing... And if that was indeed the case you would also expect other replies critical of China and the Chinese government to be downvoted to a similar degree, and yet that has not happened in this thread. Why single you out in particular?
      - 68c12c16 9y ago