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Same here, also you can't really map NTFS to Linux filesystems (perms + max path length, have fun using Go with vendor / NodeJS), so you run into stupid issues

Same here, also you can't really map NTFS to Linux filesystems (perms + max path length, have fun using Go with vendor / NodeJS), so you run into stupid issues where the only solution is to boot up a VM anyways - and then, most of the time, the VM file sharing does not support proper permissions. After dealing with that for about a month, I was pleased to hear that NVidia released drivers for 10-series GPUs for OSX, so I transformed a Haswell-E 8-core workstation into a Hackintosh and I get best of both worlds (except some USB soundcard issues, but it automatically switches to Bluetooth when it dies, so it's all fine). Regarding notebooks, I paid the premium over Windows notebooks just to get a MBP. The quality is far superior to anything I could find and for some reason there's no equivalent of a MBP15 in terms of performance, size and portability. Everyone's stuffing the low-TDP 2-core i7s and 14 screens into their "ultrabooks" and calling it a day.

staofbur 9y ago
To be technically honest here, NTFS and NT don't have a max path length problem and are optionally case sensitive. This is the abstraction layer over it (win32). I'm not sure if that does trip over that issue as I didn't experience either way myself but it is a massive problem when running things like Jenkins on windows. Disparity between the Vm and the host OS is problematic when you use things like vagrant too. Much smoother on macOS. 15" i7 MBP here as well. It's really not much bigger than my T440 and a lot thinner.
istoica 9y ago
This, this on so many levels! But this issue affects VMs too, the shared folders are always mounted with strange permissions, this is propagated to Docker too so Docker XP on Windows, in any configuration is seriously affected by the NTFS, put simply, awful. For developers this is critical. I don't know, maybe a software layer on top of NTFS permission might be able to emulate Posix style perms. The difference between Windows and Unix is too big compared to OSX, that is why OSX will always be more ergonomic. But this does not mean that it is not to be appreciated, they did an awesome job. Maybe one day things will be solved, maybe you will be able to start native windows apps from UOW, maybe even Docker will be supported, maybe permissions will be cleverly emulated ... the work they did so far clearly focuses on getting things running, the QA period will be there soon too.
aries1980 9y ago
I use a Clevo clone called Starlabs “Labtop”. 32GB DDR4 RAM, Core i7U, Samsung PRO 960 with HDMI, mDP, Thunderbolt 3, 2 USB 3.0, SD card reader, gigabit ethernet, additional SATA slot, etc without external adaptors QHD screen, Windows Hello-compatible cam in a 13.3", came with Ubuntu (switched to Fedora). Yours?

staofbur 9y ago

To be technically honest here, NTFS and NT don't have a max path length problem and are optionally case sensitive. This is the abstraction layer over it (win32). I'm not sure if that does trip over that issue as I didn't experience either way myself but it is a massive problem when running things like Jenkins on windows. Disparity between the Vm and the host OS is problematic when you use things like vagrant too. Much smoother on macOS. 15" i7 MBP here as well. It's really not much bigger than my T440 and a lot thinner.

istoica 9y ago

This, this on so many levels! But this issue affects VMs too, the shared folders are always mounted with strange permissions, this is propagated to Docker too so Docker XP on Windows, in any configuration is seriously affected by the NTFS, put simply, awful. For developers this is critical. I don't know, maybe a software layer on top of NTFS permission might be able to emulate Posix style perms. The difference between Windows and Unix is too big compared to OSX, that is why OSX will always be more ergonomic. But this does not mean that it is not to be appreciated, they did an awesome job. Maybe one day things will be solved, maybe you will be able to start native windows apps from UOW, maybe even Docker will be supported, maybe permissions will be cleverly emulated ... the work they did so far clearly focuses on getting things running, the QA period will be there soon too.

aries1980 9y ago

I use a Clevo clone called Starlabs “Labtop”. 32GB DDR4 RAM, Core i7U, Samsung PRO 960 with HDMI, mDP, Thunderbolt 3, 2 USB 3.0, SD card reader, gigabit ethernet, additional SATA slot, etc without external adaptors QHD screen, Windows Hello-compatible cam in a 13.3", came with Ubuntu (switched to Fedora). Yours?