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> Aviation safety margins are so wide that this does not qualify as a near-miss. I think you have this kind of backwards here. If you were going in for an ampu
by csours 9y ago
> Aviation safety margins are so wide that this does not qualify as a near-miss.
I think you have this kind of backwards here. If you were going in for an amputation, and they only prepped the wrong leg, would that not be a near miss?
Rare incidents are hard to reason about and measure because they are so rare; but there are things that lead up to rare events - like being on approach to the wrong runway, that are less rare, and so they are easy to measure.
After you have plans and procedures to stop the actual rare disasters, reducing near misses is the most effective way to stop disasters.
> But no pilot would ever land on a runway (or taxiway) with 3 planes on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster
- FiloSottile 9y ago> After you have plans and procedures to stop the actual rare disasters, reducing near misses is the most effective way to stop disasters. Oh, full +1. This is a bad incident that should result in an investigation and maybe safety recommendations. My point is that aviation has been at it for so long, that a "bad incident" is very far removed from what the common interpretation of "near miss could have triggered greatest disaster" (#1 on HN) would suggest to a random observer. (And I think the author knew it, and went for clickbait.)
- mnm1 9y agoMaybe, the author went for the clickbait, but only 584 people have to die for this to be the worst airline disaster in history. With potentially five planes involved, if he had crashed, I think that'd be highly likely in this situation.
- will_hughes 9y agoMore recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj192PZ_riE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj192PZ_riE
- dx034 9y agoTenerife was very different. Here, the aircraft were at the beginning of the runway and clearly visible. In Tenerife, aircraft were at different part of the runway and couldn't see each other until it was too late. That's not comparable. We know from the recording that the pilot saw planes on the taxiway and asked the tower about it. He would've never landed there after the tower confirmed that the runway should be empty.