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Sarcasm doesn't carry well on the internet, if that was your intention (not all of us know everything about everything). Please refrain, specially on this board

Sarcasm doesn't carry well on the internet, if that was your intention (not all of us know everything about everything). Please refrain, specially on this board.

rootedbox 9y ago
I can't actually tell if you are being sarcastic.. As he actually has a point. If you're spending your time getting to make your hamburger work past 30 fps; then you may need to rethink priorities.
- CharlesW 9y ago
  > As he actually has a point. The sensitivity of the human eye goes way beyond 30fps. Studies have shown that viewers can distinguish between modulated light and a stable field at up to 500 Hz. As a more practical example, many reviewers have noted that the new iPads' 120 Hz refresh rate has obvious, visible benefits for scrolling and animations.
- athenot 9y ago
  There's a difference between the frame rate at which the human eye can process images, and the frame rate at which the human eye can detect that there was a change. In a 60 fps stream, you can insert one image that is way off from the rest, and it will be detectable. You have to go around 100fps for that "blip" to go unnoticed. So when it comes to transitions, high frame rates actually do matter, as that makes the difference between something smooth & natural, and something that appears jagged & visually annoying.
- Sohcahtoa82 9y ago
  For a simple web app, yeah, I'd agree that trying to get over 30 fps is pointless, especially on mobile where I'll be concerned about battery usage. But for gaming, anybody that can't tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is blind. I have a 144 hz monitor, and I can certainly tell the difference even between 60 fps and 144 fps. The UFO Test [0], while contrived, will show you the difference. If you have a 60 hz monitor, it will show things moving at 60 fps and 30 fps (And 15 and 7.5 fps, if you want). If you have a 144 hz monitor, it will show 144 fps, 72 fps, 36 fps, etc. The difference is clear, especially if you're following the UFO with your eyes. The higher framerate is less blurry. In games, this can be huge. [0] https://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates https://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates
  - dfshorty 9y ago
    It could be some kind of placebo effect, but I know the difference between 60 and 150+ fps even on 60hz screens. At least I'm sure I can feel it when gaming.
    - Sohcahtoa82 9y ago
      It is 100% placebo because a 60 hz screen can only render 60 fps. If you're getting 150 fps, then if you're playing with V-Sync enabled, only 2 of every 5 frames is being shown to you. The other three are being thrown out, never reaching the monitor. If V-sync is disabled, then you're only seeing about 2/5ths of every frame with a tear in the screen when the next frame was shown, causing rendered objects to shear.
distantsounds 9y ago
It was sarcasm, and no.
boondaburrah 9y ago
I don't know, I recognised the sarcasm right away, since the comment used quotes to distance the speaker from what was said. If we're all formal all the time, it's going to be hard to welcome new people. It's important to make sarcasm obvious though (because it's difficult to express), so that newcomers who may not know that this is ridiculous can feel "in" on the joke, while learning something, and not being embarrassed.
- xyzxyz998 9y ago
  Yes, I noted the quotes but the comment was still useless because it doesn't add anything really informative here. Also, further muddying the water (of course after my comment) was your sibling comment which says anything above 30fps is a waste of priority.

Sarcasm doesn't carry well on the internet, if that was your intention (not all of us know everything about everything). Please refrain, specially on this board.

rootedbox 9y ago

I can't actually tell if you are being sarcastic.. As he actually has a point. If you're spending your time getting to make your hamburger work past 30 fps; then you may need to rethink priorities.

CharlesW 9y ago
> As he actually has a point. The sensitivity of the human eye goes way beyond 30fps. Studies have shown that viewers can distinguish between modulated light and a stable field at up to 500 Hz. As a more practical example, many reviewers have noted that the new iPads' 120 Hz refresh rate has obvious, visible benefits for scrolling and animations.
athenot 9y ago
There's a difference between the frame rate at which the human eye can process images, and the frame rate at which the human eye can detect that there was a change. In a 60 fps stream, you can insert one image that is way off from the rest, and it will be detectable. You have to go around 100fps for that "blip" to go unnoticed. So when it comes to transitions, high frame rates actually do matter, as that makes the difference between something smooth & natural, and something that appears jagged & visually annoying.
Sohcahtoa82 9y ago
For a simple web app, yeah, I'd agree that trying to get over 30 fps is pointless, especially on mobile where I'll be concerned about battery usage. But for gaming, anybody that can't tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is blind. I have a 144 hz monitor, and I can certainly tell the difference even between 60 fps and 144 fps. The UFO Test [0], while contrived, will show you the difference. If you have a 60 hz monitor, it will show things moving at 60 fps and 30 fps (And 15 and 7.5 fps, if you want). If you have a 144 hz monitor, it will show 144 fps, 72 fps, 36 fps, etc. The difference is clear, especially if you're following the UFO with your eyes. The higher framerate is less blurry. In games, this can be huge. [0] https://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates https://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates
- dfshorty 9y ago
  It could be some kind of placebo effect, but I know the difference between 60 and 150+ fps even on 60hz screens. At least I'm sure I can feel it when gaming.
  - Sohcahtoa82 9y ago
    It is 100% placebo because a 60 hz screen can only render 60 fps. If you're getting 150 fps, then if you're playing with V-Sync enabled, only 2 of every 5 frames is being shown to you. The other three are being thrown out, never reaching the monitor. If V-sync is disabled, then you're only seeing about 2/5ths of every frame with a tear in the screen when the next frame was shown, causing rendered objects to shear.

distantsounds 9y ago

It was sarcasm, and no.

boondaburrah 9y ago

I don't know, I recognised the sarcasm right away, since the comment used quotes to distance the speaker from what was said. If we're all formal all the time, it's going to be hard to welcome new people. It's important to make sarcasm obvious though (because it's difficult to express), so that newcomers who may not know that this is ridiculous can feel "in" on the joke, while learning something, and not being embarrassed.

xyzxyz998 9y ago
Yes, I noted the quotes but the comment was still useless because it doesn't add anything really informative here. Also, further muddying the water (of course after my comment) was your sibling comment which says anything above 30fps is a waste of priority.