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Why single out Muslims when other groups are doing the same thing, like the Christian "Quiverfull" movement? Remember the carbon footprint of 7-10 desperately

Why single out Muslims when other groups are doing the same thing, like the Christian "Quiverfull" movement? Remember the carbon footprint of 7-10 desperately poor people is almost nothing, while the footprint of a single typical American is enormous. Those American families with 7-10 kids are typically the wealthy sort, having kids is not cheap, and are a huge problem in terms of resource consumption due to lifestyle decisions. All those kids will have cars, they'll fly around for family vacations, and so on.

futun 9y ago
> Why single out Muslims when other groups are doing the same thing, like the Christian "Quiverfull" movement? Because statistically the Quiverfull movement is irrelevant. Why not single out Muslims for things that they're doing that harm the future of the planet? Are you implying that doing so is racist? And Muslims are also more likely to pro-create with their cousins leading to genetic abnormalities. This too needs to stop.
EGreg 9y ago
I didn't single out Muslims, I said any families that have 7-10 kids. Those kids eventually move into the cities and use the modern amenities everyone else uses. Unless you think all those people will stay poor and underdeveloped for the next 50 years. I did however link to a Wikipedia article that lists the birth rates of Muslims, Christians and others.
- astrodust 9y ago
  You're implying that religion has something to do with it when it's the wrong factor to be looking at. The birth rates in Brazil and Philippines are high as well, but those are very Christian countries. Meanwhile Russia, arguably Christian (Orthodox) has a very low birth rate which drags down the average. That article also shows declining birth rates in the Muslim world, which is to be expected as poverty and education issues are addressed. > Those kids eventually move into the cities and use the modern amenities everyone else uses. Unless you think all those people will stay poor and underdeveloped for the next 50 years. It really depends on the country in question and how stable their political future is. I can see Malaysia making big gains, but South Sudan and Syria still being a total mess. There are some countries which were resource poor to start with and will never get ahead without some kind of political partnership, while others have huge, largely untapped sources of potential wealth.

futun 9y ago

> Why single out Muslims when other groups are doing the same thing, like the Christian "Quiverfull" movement? Because statistically the Quiverfull movement is irrelevant. Why not single out Muslims for things that they're doing that harm the future of the planet? Are you implying that doing so is racist? And Muslims are also more likely to pro-create with their cousins leading to genetic abnormalities. This too needs to stop.

EGreg 9y ago

I didn't single out Muslims, I said any families that have 7-10 kids. Those kids eventually move into the cities and use the modern amenities everyone else uses. Unless you think all those people will stay poor and underdeveloped for the next 50 years. I did however link to a Wikipedia article that lists the birth rates of Muslims, Christians and others.

astrodust 9y ago
You're implying that religion has something to do with it when it's the wrong factor to be looking at. The birth rates in Brazil and Philippines are high as well, but those are very Christian countries. Meanwhile Russia, arguably Christian (Orthodox) has a very low birth rate which drags down the average. That article also shows declining birth rates in the Muslim world, which is to be expected as poverty and education issues are addressed. > Those kids eventually move into the cities and use the modern amenities everyone else uses. Unless you think all those people will stay poor and underdeveloped for the next 50 years. It really depends on the country in question and how stable their political future is. I can see Malaysia making big gains, but South Sudan and Syria still being a total mess. There are some countries which were resource poor to start with and will never get ahead without some kind of political partnership, while others have huge, largely untapped sources of potential wealth.