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Well, my point is that everything has a cost, even repairability/upgradeability, either in monetary value, or in lack of some features. With this in mind, then

Well, my point is that everything has a cost, even repairability/upgradeability, either in monetary value, or in lack of some features. With this in mind, then manufacturers have to consider where on that spectrum they want to be. What things to give up in order to provide "optimum" user value. And I think, for many people, that the current limited upgradeability of for example iPads is quite close to the optima. Screens and batteries can be quite easily changed, but you can't upgrade the storage or other internal components. The lack of repairability does not necessarily, in my opinion, show any market force failure. All the failed attempts of modular phones might even show the opposite. And don't take me wrong, I would looove a more upgradeable Mac (also an iOS developer), but I feel that Apple should be allowed to make those choices by themselves. If upgradeability would be so important for me I could always be an .NET-dev.

TeMPOraL 9y ago
One thing to remember is that manufacturers don't optimize for "user value" as in "how much users will like it", but for the value they can take from users, i.e. profit. The two are correlated, but not perfectly and not equally well in every dimension.
kartickv 9y ago
I see where you're coming from, but I wasn't talking about phones or tablets. I specifically mentioned the iMac — for a desktop computer, the costs are negligible. You're not holding or carrying it, so weight and thickness are not that important. My iMac is already 10kg. Nobody would notice it if it were 10.5. The benefits far outweigh any negligible costs. In my assessment, Apple hasn't make the right decisions when left to themselves. And it's not just me saying that. Even some Apple fans are saying so: https://marco.org/2017/04/15/mac-pro-audacity-of-yes https://marco.org/2017/04/15/mac-pro-audacity-of-yes You're still free to disagree, but in that case we should agree to disagree.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

One thing to remember is that manufacturers don't optimize for "user value" as in "how much users will like it", but for the value they can take from users, i.e. profit. The two are correlated, but not perfectly and not equally well in every dimension.

kartickv 9y ago

I see where you're coming from, but I wasn't talking about phones or tablets. I specifically mentioned the iMac — for a desktop computer, the costs are negligible. You're not holding or carrying it, so weight and thickness are not that important. My iMac is already 10kg. Nobody would notice it if it were 10.5. The benefits far outweigh any negligible costs. In my assessment, Apple hasn't make the right decisions when left to themselves. And it's not just me saying that. Even some Apple fans are saying so: https://marco.org/2017/04/15/mac-pro-audacity-of-yes https://marco.org/2017/04/15/mac-pro-audacity-of-yes You're still free to disagree, but in that case we should agree to disagree.