> they ought to hire experts at expert rates and provide them the tools they need to look. I'm really curious where this idea that the existence of a bug progr

> they ought to hire experts at expert rates and provide them the tools they need to look. I'm really curious where this idea that the existence of a bug program means they must have no in-house bug hunting team. A competent, deep pocketed corporation (which I think we all agree Apple is) would certainly do both. Want to hunt Apple bugs but not work for them? Do that. Want to hunt bugs with a steady salary? Do that. Edit: now with link to 197 job postings! https://jobs.apple.com/us/search#&ss=Sr.%20Security%20Engineer&t=0&so=&lo=0*USA&pN=0 https://jobs.apple.com/us/search#&ss=Sr.%20Security%20Engine...