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The numbers around domestic violence are staggering: http://ncadv.org/learn-more/statistics http://ncadv.org/learn-more/statistics It's also a notorious blind

by mike_h 9y ago

The numbers around domestic violence are staggering: http://ncadv.org/learn-more/statistics http://ncadv.org/learn-more/statistics It's also a notorious blind spot for law enforcement – even when restraining orders are issued, they're nearly unenforceable, and once the aggressor is in your house you're a sitting duck. Ambient audio-UI devices could be the biggest technological break ever in monitoring for the presence and emotional state of the subject of a restraining order. It's not obvious like a security camera or alarm system, and opt-in to a monitoring app would be invisible.

mcbobbington 9y ago
Most of those statistics are total trash created by and for the domestic violence industry. It's just like the drug crime industry. Most of it is arresting people who shouldn't be. In many ways it's worse because innocent people are constantly arrested, and a man is assumed to be guilty until proven innocent in court. Either they are arrested on hearsay (if girl says it man will go to jail period), or they are arrested for something small that doesn't need police intervention (such as causing a scratch, or grabbing the spouse by their arm. Literally anything that causes any pain whatsoever is domestic violence. Cops prefer arresting people who aren't real criminals because they are not going to put the cops life at risk. When it comes to true real batterers, calling the police may actually lead to more death due to revenge killings. The real batterers are out of control and the wisest thing to do is just get away. This site has some eye opening insight into the situation. http://www.dvmen.org/dv-10.htm http://www.dvmen.org/dv-10.htm Another: http://www.pseagles.com/Feminist_Abuse_of_Domestic_Violence_Laws http://www.pseagles.com/Feminist_Abuse_of_Domestic_Violence_...
- joeblow9999 9y ago
  Why is this downvoted?
  - greglindahl 9y ago
    "causing a scratch" or "grabbing an arm" is the definition of battery. I'm not surprised that someone who asserts that the police shouldn't enforce the law gets downvoted, especially when we're talking about an emotional subject like domestic violence.
    - mcbobbington 9y ago
      >I'm not surprised that someone who asserts that the police shouldn't enforce the law gets downvoted Virtually nobody on HN thinks federal marijuana laws, (and i would guess immigration laws) should be enforced. You have a double standard here on "enforcing the law". If you think cops need to be called over a scratch or being grabbed, you have either lost your mind, or you just don't understand what getting the cops involved means. It's like arresting somebody and telling them they can't drive for 30 days and need to go on probation because they sped 5mph above the speed limit, and if they speed again, they won't be able to drive again for the rest of their life. What's more in some states, the penalties stack. So if you scratch 2 people in the course of your entire life, you are now a felon will spend a year behind bars and can't vote. For a scratch. This is beyond absurd. Also if you get one deffered adjudication you can never touch a gun again, not even 20 years later to go hunting. It doesn't matter if your spouse was just telling you they really enjoyed having sex with your boss - if you even cause a scratch you are a criminal, will be thrown out of your own house. If your spouse divorces you, you will lose custody because you are a "batterer". Domestic violence issues are mainly propaganda and fear-mongering. They use it for political purposes, just like they use terrorism. When cops get involved, like I said before, it often leads to murders because the real batters are unstable people and calling the police just makes them angry and likely to murder.
      - greglindahl 9y ago
        Like most people, I view laws about violent attacks different from laws about drug consumption that doesn't hurt anyone. I totally think the cops should be called when someone is assaulted.
        9y ago

by mike_h 9y ago

mcbobbington 9y ago

Most of those statistics are total trash created by and for the domestic violence industry. It's just like the drug crime industry. Most of it is arresting people who shouldn't be. In many ways it's worse because innocent people are constantly arrested, and a man is assumed to be guilty until proven innocent in court. Either they are arrested on hearsay (if girl says it man will go to jail period), or they are arrested for something small that doesn't need police intervention (such as causing a scratch, or grabbing the spouse by their arm. Literally anything that causes any pain whatsoever is domestic violence. Cops prefer arresting people who aren't real criminals because they are not going to put the cops life at risk. When it comes to true real batterers, calling the police may actually lead to more death due to revenge killings. The real batterers are out of control and the wisest thing to do is just get away. This site has some eye opening insight into the situation. http://www.dvmen.org/dv-10.htm http://www.dvmen.org/dv-10.htm Another: http://www.pseagles.com/Feminist_Abuse_of_Domestic_Violence_Laws http://www.pseagles.com/Feminist_Abuse_of_Domestic_Violence_...

joeblow9999 9y ago
Why is this downvoted?
- greglindahl 9y ago
  "causing a scratch" or "grabbing an arm" is the definition of battery. I'm not surprised that someone who asserts that the police shouldn't enforce the law gets downvoted, especially when we're talking about an emotional subject like domestic violence.
  - mcbobbington 9y ago
    >I'm not surprised that someone who asserts that the police shouldn't enforce the law gets downvoted Virtually nobody on HN thinks federal marijuana laws, (and i would guess immigration laws) should be enforced. You have a double standard here on "enforcing the law". If you think cops need to be called over a scratch or being grabbed, you have either lost your mind, or you just don't understand what getting the cops involved means. It's like arresting somebody and telling them they can't drive for 30 days and need to go on probation because they sped 5mph above the speed limit, and if they speed again, they won't be able to drive again for the rest of their life. What's more in some states, the penalties stack. So if you scratch 2 people in the course of your entire life, you are now a felon will spend a year behind bars and can't vote. For a scratch. This is beyond absurd. Also if you get one deffered adjudication you can never touch a gun again, not even 20 years later to go hunting. It doesn't matter if your spouse was just telling you they really enjoyed having sex with your boss - if you even cause a scratch you are a criminal, will be thrown out of your own house. If your spouse divorces you, you will lose custody because you are a "batterer". Domestic violence issues are mainly propaganda and fear-mongering. They use it for political purposes, just like they use terrorism. When cops get involved, like I said before, it often leads to murders because the real batters are unstable people and calling the police just makes them angry and likely to murder.
    - greglindahl 9y ago
      Like most people, I view laws about violent attacks different from laws about drug consumption that doesn't hurt anyone. I totally think the cops should be called when someone is assaulted.
      - 9y ago