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GTX 1080 GPU, i7-6700 Skylake, 64 GB DDR4 RAM, 2x500 GB 6 Gb/s SSDs for 99EUR/month with a one-time 99EUR setup fee. My lord. HPC resources are incredibly affo

GTX 1080 GPU, i7-6700 Skylake, 64 GB DDR4 RAM, 2x500 GB 6 Gb/s SSDs for 99EUR/month with a one-time 99EUR setup fee. My lord. HPC resources are incredibly affordable. Hetnzer and some of the other dedicated server companies in Europe/Canada have some amazing deals (we've used OVH in the past with great success, and right now we use Paperspace for CPU intensive stuff we want to share expensive licensing on, like Visual3D).

mrb 9y ago
"incredibly affordable" It could go a lot lower. Hetzner's profit margin on renting a server like this for 99€/month is formidable.
- tjoff 9y ago
  How to you figure? If I were to buy such as system it would be over €2000, that's not including cooling or a case for it either. Granted I live in Sweden so taxes are a bit on the high side. Regardless, that will be at least 20 months before they make a dime (assuming they can rent it 100% of the time). And in that time it will collect rackspace along with electricity, bandwitdh (2 gbits and 50 TB per month) and a dedicated IP. And after all that time that computer is not that hot anymore, but still draws just as much electricity regardless.
- icelancer 9y ago
  I'm sure they are, but there's turnover, customer service, attrition, obsolescence, etc that is all baked in, though clearly GTX 1080s will be valuable for some time, as will the i7 Skylake architecture. Relative to the market, that price is very, very good.
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nevi-me 9y ago
Wow, to go off topic; I've been using Versaweb for the past 3-4 years, but became very unhappy after they forced a "server management" fee down our throats. We've been looking at setting up a small cluster of servers at work (budget of about $500), and I was still going to go with Versaweb. After seeing Hetzner, I'm going to reassess, and likely move everything there. I'm paying €150 for what it seems I could pay €100 for. There was something that made me decide against Hetzner a few years ago, but I'll research and see if their TOS are now different. Thanks again! EDIT: My numbers are wrong, I'm going to pay less for 4x the RAM (256GB)
- ryanlol 9y ago
  Why are you comparing Hetzner and Versaweb? They exist in completely different markets.
  - nevi-me 9y ago
    How so? I understand that there are some differences between the two, but the fundamentals are the same; which is that I want a physical server that I can manage. Their pricing structures are slightly different, Versaweb gives me a bit more flexibility when configuring, a wider IP subnet bundled (instead of 1 usable IP), and a few other things which I'm investigating. I also have to consider laws and network latency as these are in different regions. In the end, I am paying $180 for a Haswell Xeon with lots of disk space and IO. I could pay the same amount for more RAM on the same CPU, albeit with slightly less space. If I keep the same setup at a fraction of the cost, I could end up getting the 1080 GPU on the same datacenter. It somehow feels like the same or similar market to my needs ...
    - ryanlol 9y ago
      >How so? I understand that there are some differences between the two, but the fundamentals are the same; which is that I want a physical server that I can manage. They're on different continents, which is a pretty fundamental difference.

mrb 9y ago

"incredibly affordable" It could go a lot lower. Hetzner's profit margin on renting a server like this for 99€/month is formidable.

tjoff 9y ago
How to you figure? If I were to buy such as system it would be over €2000, that's not including cooling or a case for it either. Granted I live in Sweden so taxes are a bit on the high side. Regardless, that will be at least 20 months before they make a dime (assuming they can rent it 100% of the time). And in that time it will collect rackspace along with electricity, bandwitdh (2 gbits and 50 TB per month) and a dedicated IP. And after all that time that computer is not that hot anymore, but still draws just as much electricity regardless.
icelancer 9y ago
I'm sure they are, but there's turnover, customer service, attrition, obsolescence, etc that is all baked in, though clearly GTX 1080s will be valuable for some time, as will the i7 Skylake architecture. Relative to the market, that price is very, very good.
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nevi-me 9y ago

Wow, to go off topic; I've been using Versaweb for the past 3-4 years, but became very unhappy after they forced a "server management" fee down our throats. We've been looking at setting up a small cluster of servers at work (budget of about $500), and I was still going to go with Versaweb. After seeing Hetzner, I'm going to reassess, and likely move everything there. I'm paying €150 for what it seems I could pay €100 for. There was something that made me decide against Hetzner a few years ago, but I'll research and see if their TOS are now different. Thanks again! EDIT: My numbers are wrong, I'm going to pay less for 4x the RAM (256GB)

ryanlol 9y ago
Why are you comparing Hetzner and Versaweb? They exist in completely different markets.
- nevi-me 9y ago
  How so? I understand that there are some differences between the two, but the fundamentals are the same; which is that I want a physical server that I can manage. Their pricing structures are slightly different, Versaweb gives me a bit more flexibility when configuring, a wider IP subnet bundled (instead of 1 usable IP), and a few other things which I'm investigating. I also have to consider laws and network latency as these are in different regions. In the end, I am paying $180 for a Haswell Xeon with lots of disk space and IO. I could pay the same amount for more RAM on the same CPU, albeit with slightly less space. If I keep the same setup at a fraction of the cost, I could end up getting the 1080 GPU on the same datacenter. It somehow feels like the same or similar market to my needs ...
  - ryanlol 9y ago
    >How so? I understand that there are some differences between the two, but the fundamentals are the same; which is that I want a physical server that I can manage. They're on different continents, which is a pretty fundamental difference.