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The problem is public opinion. Americans either don't care or think imperial is superior. It doesn't have to be a federal law. Change can start gradually with

by esolyt 9y ago

The problem is public opinion. Americans either don't care or think imperial is superior. It doesn't have to be a federal law. Change can start gradually with private companies. Pokemon Go, for instance, shows only kilometers and doesn't offer imperial units as an option. All water bottles in the US have both mililiters and fluid ounces on their label.

cr0sh 9y ago
From what I understand, most construction and other raw materials are all measured in metric units, then converted to imperial at final sale if needed. For instance, a 4 x 8 foot sheet of plywood down at Home Depot isn't really 4 x 8 feet; it actually has an imperial measurement of 47.938 x 95.938 inches, which is approximately 1217 x 2437 mm - the standard metric size is 1220 x 2440 mm: http://cwc.ca/wood-products/panel-products/plywood/sizes/ http://cwc.ca/wood-products/panel-products/plywood/sizes/ Thicknesses (as noted in the table too) have similar "whole" metric numbers. You see this also on some (not all) general materials sold to the American consumer public - the actual material is metric sized, but marketed with imperial measurements. I think this is done both for cultural reasons, as well as just "momentum" and that the public is used to it. But the reality is (almost) everything is now metric, the public just isn't fully aware of it yet.
- Terretta 9y ago
  This doesn’t pass commen sense for me. Plywood measured in metric, converted to imperial if needed? I can imagine someone coming up with 4 feet by 8 feet as a standard size for building material. I don’t see them coming up with 1220mm x 2440mm and thinking “nailed it, perfect size for calculating how many of these to make a wall!” Also, since the gap between plywood takes space, plywood (and drywall) is a bit less than stated size to give you breathing room to put 4x8s repeating every 4 and 8 feet. That said I don’t know why a nominal 2×4 is actually 1½ × 3½. Used to be finishing work shaved it down, now they just make ‘em that way to be ornery.
  - abakker 9y ago
    The sizing is also dependent on intent. Floor underlayment is not the exact same size as furniture grade plywood. And MDF is actually 49"x97" to give you some extra room if you are laminating a veneer on it. It is true that various plywoods come in metric thickness though. Especially those made in China.
johncolanduoni 9y ago
> All water bottles in the US have both mililiters and fluid ounces on their label. That's actually required by federal law. A lot of commercial regulations in the US require metric measurements in addition to imperial.
- jaggederest 9y ago
  Legacy of the 1970s-1980s attempt to move the US onto the metric standard. Don't tell people who are annoyed by metric, but all the 'imperial' units we use now are 100% based on metric units. Our metrology has been metric since that time, all the day-to-day usage is derived units. Which is why an inch is exactly 2.54cm instead of some rounded fraction.

by esolyt 9y ago

cr0sh 9y ago

From what I understand, most construction and other raw materials are all measured in metric units, then converted to imperial at final sale if needed. For instance, a 4 x 8 foot sheet of plywood down at Home Depot isn't really 4 x 8 feet; it actually has an imperial measurement of 47.938 x 95.938 inches, which is approximately 1217 x 2437 mm - the standard metric size is 1220 x 2440 mm: http://cwc.ca/wood-products/panel-products/plywood/sizes/ http://cwc.ca/wood-products/panel-products/plywood/sizes/ Thicknesses (as noted in the table too) have similar "whole" metric numbers. You see this also on some (not all) general materials sold to the American consumer public - the actual material is metric sized, but marketed with imperial measurements. I think this is done both for cultural reasons, as well as just "momentum" and that the public is used to it. But the reality is (almost) everything is now metric, the public just isn't fully aware of it yet.

Terretta 9y ago
This doesn’t pass commen sense for me. Plywood measured in metric, converted to imperial if needed? I can imagine someone coming up with 4 feet by 8 feet as a standard size for building material. I don’t see them coming up with 1220mm x 2440mm and thinking “nailed it, perfect size for calculating how many of these to make a wall!” Also, since the gap between plywood takes space, plywood (and drywall) is a bit less than stated size to give you breathing room to put 4x8s repeating every 4 and 8 feet. That said I don’t know why a nominal 2×4 is actually 1½ × 3½. Used to be finishing work shaved it down, now they just make ‘em that way to be ornery.
- abakker 9y ago
  The sizing is also dependent on intent. Floor underlayment is not the exact same size as furniture grade plywood. And MDF is actually 49"x97" to give you some extra room if you are laminating a veneer on it. It is true that various plywoods come in metric thickness though. Especially those made in China.

johncolanduoni 9y ago

> All water bottles in the US have both mililiters and fluid ounces on their label. That's actually required by federal law. A lot of commercial regulations in the US require metric measurements in addition to imperial.

jaggederest 9y ago
Legacy of the 1970s-1980s attempt to move the US onto the metric standard. Don't tell people who are annoyed by metric, but all the 'imperial' units we use now are 100% based on metric units. Our metrology has been metric since that time, all the day-to-day usage is derived units. Which is why an inch is exactly 2.54cm instead of some rounded fraction.