> the original logic seems to have been lost I don't know, Google reader is still not up. What logic is lost? > Hangouts wasn't discontinued It is abandoned,

> the original logic seems to have been lost I don't know, Google reader is still not up. What logic is lost? > Hangouts wasn't discontinued It is abandoned, which is worse than dicontinued. No new features, some features have been removed. Apparently it's "enterprise" focused now. > GTalk is basically Hangouts, with with improvements Wrong. Read up about this tiny thing called federation. Hangouts is a small, walled-garden subset of gtalk. And even hangouts is deprecated now (at least for consumers). Now if you're a consumer and want to use a google service for chat, you have allo. Allo is a dumbed down subset of hangouts. No multi-device support, no web app, no voice, no sms integration, no video. It has stickers though. Guess some people are fine with that. I'm not.