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The demographics are entirely irrelevant to this discussion and I really wish people would stop bringing it up because it's the same type of racist thinking tha
by civilitty 9y ago
The demographics are entirely irrelevant to this discussion and I really wish people would stop bringing it up because it's the same type of racist thinking that causes police to disproportionately target African American males. Rampant recidivism, a vengeful justice system, and an entirely ineffectual mental health treatment are the real problems - not the density, skin color, or socioeconomics of urban populations. Crime in those environments is driven by a nearly inescapable cycle of political and economic disenfranchisement starting in childhood and ending in a prison cell.
It is a massive self-reinforcing feedback loop. If we had even an ounce of the empathy and rational approach to public safety that the Nordic countries had, we wouldn't be having this discussion and that feedback loop would have been broken a century ago.
- mc32 9y agoFor sure it would help is we had better support systems for the indigent and focused more on rehabilitation and re-integration. These are things we can improve, if we wanted to. That said, this is not endemic to western cultures. The same attitude is prevalent in LatAm, Africa, South Asia, etc. It would be helpful if people didn't perpetuate the myth that it springs from race (though race can exacerbate the issue). It was a problem in Britain before they became empire. It's an issue in China, India, South Africa, Singapore, Indonesia, Turkey, Iran, Japan, Korea, etc. many places far-removed from western culture.