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"Right now our output is basically moving our jaws and our tongues or typing [with] our fingers. We're ... limited to this very low output rate from our brains,

"Right now our output is basically moving our jaws and our tongues or typing [with] our fingers. We're ... limited to this very low output rate from our brains, and what if we could up that through telepathy?" asks Jepsen. "Instant transfer of thoughts would also speed up the innovation process." So, instant, telepathic transfer of an idea is faster than simply conveying an idea with words. However, in "receiving" a thought, it still has to go through some linguistic framework, which I imagine includes the same kind of language processing that happens when you hear speech. The same with conveying the thought- is it conveyed with words, and if so, how other than through language? I don't mean a computer reading your thoughts and typing them, I mean actual telepathy, which is the "transference of information from one person to another without the use of any known sensory channels of physical interaction" Can you really learn anything directly this way, without language processing? Am I totally missing her point? I'm not arguing there aren't other good uses for this. edit: ok, she is talking about OUTPUT, not necessarily INPUT (which is the second necessary component of "telepathy"). I want to hear more of the "input" side, or else the shit's kind of bunk, kind of like Ray Kurzweil (imho)

istorical 9y ago
The idea that auditory language or speech is differentiated from mental ideas / thoughts is very thoughtprovoking and I believe under investigated. Related is the phenonemon that some people always "hear" something while they're reading, others do sometimes, and others literally don't understand what you mean by "hear". https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4wttu4/do_you_hear_a_voice_while_you_read/#bottom-comments https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4wttu4/do_you_hear_a... https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/6gqbga/what_exactly_do_you_do_in_your_brain_when_youre/ https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/6gqbga/what_exactly_... https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/1uksrt/when_you_read_a_book_do_you_see_the_scenes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/1uksrt/when_you_read... https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/48uiqz/to_what_degree_do_you_visualize_whats_happening/ https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/48uiqz/to_what_degre... Also related: aphantasia - the inability to "visualize" something in your mind's eye: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6TfNXbJ4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6TfNXbJ4M We tend to assume that most other people experience a similar world to us, but in reality there seem to be incredible differences in the ways people think, in the way people see, in the way people read, in the way people conceptualize, in the way people imagine, etc. and those differences start to come out when you ask them about their experiences - we just don't think to talk about them. I'm very skeptical of technology that claims to interface with the brain when the way people think, sense, and experience seems to be so diverse.

istorical 9y ago

The idea that auditory language or speech is differentiated from mental ideas / thoughts is very thoughtprovoking and I believe under investigated. Related is the phenonemon that some people always "hear" something while they're reading, others do sometimes, and others literally don't understand what you mean by "hear". https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4wttu4/do_you_hear_a_voice_while_you_read/#bottom-comments https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4wttu4/do_you_hear_a... https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/6gqbga/what_exactly_do_you_do_in_your_brain_when_youre/ https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/6gqbga/what_exactly_... https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/1uksrt/when_you_read_a_book_do_you_see_the_scenes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/1uksrt/when_you_read... https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/48uiqz/to_what_degree_do_you_visualize_whats_happening/ https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/48uiqz/to_what_degre... Also related: aphantasia - the inability to "visualize" something in your mind's eye: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6TfNXbJ4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6TfNXbJ4M We tend to assume that most other people experience a similar world to us, but in reality there seem to be incredible differences in the ways people think, in the way people see, in the way people read, in the way people conceptualize, in the way people imagine, etc. and those differences start to come out when you ask them about their experiences - we just don't think to talk about them. I'm very skeptical of technology that claims to interface with the brain when the way people think, sense, and experience seems to be so diverse.