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Title feels a little clickbaity, as it was a request from the Judge prior to going to a Jury: U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco has asked
by mmanfrin 9y ago
Title feels a little clickbaity, as it was a request from the Judge prior to going to a Jury:
U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco has asked
Waymo to narrow its more than 100 trade secrets claims to
fewer than 10 to put in front of a jury.
- sillysaurus3 9y agoReformatted for mobile users: U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco has asked Waymo to narrow its more than 100 trade secrets claims to fewer than 10 to put in front of a jury.
- austenallred 9y ago@dang/HN team: Considering how often snippets are used on HN, is there another way to format those on mobile? Thanks for all you do!
- mi100hael 9y agoThe solution is for users to not use monospaced, pre-formatted text for things other than code snippets.
- gpawl 9y agoIf users have to work around server errors, it's not a solution.
- freehunter 9y agoIt's not a server error, it's a user error. Stop using monospace for things that don't need it.
- RodericDay 9y agoI think monospaced should be like ``` monospaced ``` And the four-space/tab indentation should denote a quote But that's just me.
- wlesieutre 9y agoI'm a fan of > for quotes, plus it's less likely to have people used to four spaces for code suddenly getting quotes instead
- yohann305 9y agototally. My first thoughts while reading the title was "oh now that's a 90 degree turn, patents are bogus". Turn out the title is... oh well, this is kind of a fake news, it's everywhere, even on HN. What a wonderful world edit: the title has been edited since.
- myth_buster 9y agoUber's response to it is even more baffling! "Waymo’s retreat on three of their four patent claims is yet another sign that they have overpromised and can’t deliver," Uber said in a statement. "Not only have they uncovered zero evidence of any of the 14,000 files in question coming to Uber, they now admit that Uber’s LiDAR design is actually very different than theirs. Faced with this hard truth, Waymo has resorted to floating conspiracy theories not rooted in fact, doing everything they can to put the focus on sensation rather than substance."
- epmaybe 9y agoIs it baffling? They're doing what they can to influence the public (and jury, as impartial as they will try to make it).
- arkitaip 9y agoIt is baffling because it does a poor job at influencing. Frankly it sounds kinda unprofessional and "Uberish".
- epmaybe 9y agoI think it's because you know significantly more about the legal battle than the average person. Now, a jury may not be convinced by this stunt, that I'll give.
- Fomite 9y agoUber's legal team has done this a couple times recently - really strong tones for things.
- malandrew 9y agoBoth legal teams have done it. It's what lawyers do, especially in a case playing out so publicly.
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- acdx 9y agoThe relevant quote from the judge is: I want to reiterate to the plaintiff here that you should think a lot about just dropping the patent part of this case.
- Corence 9y agoMy understanding is that there are two parts to this suit: patent infringement and trade secrets. You can't patent a trade secret (then it wouldn't be secret), so these are two independent things. Alsup was suggesting Waymo to drop the patent portion of their suit and focus solely on the trade secret portion of their case. The trade secrets were pared down as mentioned in that snippet, but that's in addition to dropping 3 of the 4 patent infringement claims.
- azylman 9y agoNote that the reason he told them to drop the trade secret claims is because they're kind of ridiculous: > the judge scolded Waymo for being "overbroad" in what it says are 121 trade secrets involved in the case. For example, Alsup wrote that Waymo can't claim that the way it positions light sources in its Lidar is protected, since the design uses well-known principles of physics.