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I'll be honest - he seems to be a prime example of someone focusing too much on the tools rather than the creative process. All his best, legendary, stuff came

I'll be honest - he seems to be a prime example of someone focusing too much on the tools rather than the creative process. All his best, legendary, stuff came way before he got this awesome setup, his recent stuff hasn't been very well received. You don't need a ton of expensive equipment to create excellent electronic music.

JohnJamesRambo 9y ago
George Lucased.
AndrewKemendo 9y ago
As a former amateur audio engineer I really liked seeing all the analog modulators, and putting them all in one area is crazy. I see it as the equivalent of a shoe closet for sneakerheads. He can finally afford all the cool super tech audio engineering stuff he's always wanted but makes little impact on the output and popular success.
- kristofferR 9y ago
  My point was actually that it seems to have a negative impact on his output.
  - philipov 9y ago
    Correlation is not causation. Maybe he's just not interested in what other people think anymore and wants to play with cool toys rather than express some artistic vision. That actually is somewhat explicitly his style. He disdains criticism and doesn't have to prove himself to anyone. He's a gamer and personality more than an artist.
swiley 9y ago
The modern musical instrument is a diaphragm controlled by a stream of real valued position samples. There's absolutely no need for anything complex to play it, you can write simple C programs to generate all kinds of bizarre and beautiful effects.
- strgrd 9y ago
  What is your point? Are you implying that people thought electronic music was otherwise difficult or expensive to produce? Did you think people didn't know you could write code to generate sound? ...Or are you just being reductive and showing off your programming knowledge?
- rhinoceraptor 9y ago
  Analog synths are a good way to differentiate though. It would be very difficult to replicate an analog synth patch even if you knew exactly how it was set up.
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- crispyambulance 9y ago
  In principle, you're mostly right. And its true, there are folks who do make music entirely on their laptops, successfully, and a lot of it. There's a visceral, physical aspect to music-making, however, that begs for tactile feedback. Some people really need that out of their instruments. That's why, in the case of electronic music, the big old modulars are making a comeback.
- raverbashing 9y ago
  True, in theory Now create a C program that reproduces a person singing, with all the variables that a real singer can act upon
  - TheOtherHobbes 9y ago
    That is not a useful comparison. Because if you try the same on a big analog modular you won't get very far at all - less far than you can get with code, given that very basic singing synthesis was already a solved problem back in the 1960s, and systems like Vocaloid have been commercial products for more than a decade now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsJCJ02184 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsJCJ02184 ...Which is the core problem with analog synthesis, whether it's a modular or a box-of-knobs synth: it's the synthesis equivalent of writing code in BASIC. You can do it, and it's good for certain kinds of jobs. But even though a wall of knobs and wires looks like the last word in musical openness, it actually puts some very rigid limits on the complexity and sophistication of what you can do. And worse (IMO) it trains you to think inside those limits instead of encouraging you to explore beyond them.
twii 9y ago
Looks a bit like one of JunkyXL's setups. Fortunately for mankind there is no way you can make better music with a setup like this compared to a poor man's basic setup. Most 'poor' people are lost when they happen to become 'rich'. It's a (mouse) trap. You'll see this over and over again..
ehsankia 9y ago
That's entirely true, and I don't think he's doing all this "to make better music". But as a true audio geek, that's something that's extremely fun and cool to do if you can afford it. It's like people building insane gaming stations with lots of lights and crazy decoration. It won't make them better gamers, but it's a great hobby. As mentioned in the video, you can emulate all of these in the computer anyway, but if you've got the money, why not create something cool like this?
- kristofferR 9y ago
  The video actually claims at 05:10 that they can create sounds that can't be created digitally.
okket 9y ago
IMHO the audio nerd version of a huge garage filled with sports cars and old timers.

JohnJamesRambo 9y ago

George Lucased.

AndrewKemendo 9y ago

As a former amateur audio engineer I really liked seeing all the analog modulators, and putting them all in one area is crazy. I see it as the equivalent of a shoe closet for sneakerheads. He can finally afford all the cool super tech audio engineering stuff he's always wanted but makes little impact on the output and popular success.

kristofferR 9y ago
My point was actually that it seems to have a negative impact on his output.
- philipov 9y ago
  Correlation is not causation. Maybe he's just not interested in what other people think anymore and wants to play with cool toys rather than express some artistic vision. That actually is somewhat explicitly his style. He disdains criticism and doesn't have to prove himself to anyone. He's a gamer and personality more than an artist.

swiley 9y ago

The modern musical instrument is a diaphragm controlled by a stream of real valued position samples. There's absolutely no need for anything complex to play it, you can write simple C programs to generate all kinds of bizarre and beautiful effects.

strgrd 9y ago
What is your point? Are you implying that people thought electronic music was otherwise difficult or expensive to produce? Did you think people didn't know you could write code to generate sound? ...Or are you just being reductive and showing off your programming knowledge?
rhinoceraptor 9y ago
Analog synths are a good way to differentiate though. It would be very difficult to replicate an analog synth patch even if you knew exactly how it was set up.
- deleted 9y ago
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crispyambulance 9y ago
In principle, you're mostly right. And its true, there are folks who do make music entirely on their laptops, successfully, and a lot of it. There's a visceral, physical aspect to music-making, however, that begs for tactile feedback. Some people really need that out of their instruments. That's why, in the case of electronic music, the big old modulars are making a comeback.
raverbashing 9y ago
True, in theory Now create a C program that reproduces a person singing, with all the variables that a real singer can act upon
- TheOtherHobbes 9y ago
  That is not a useful comparison. Because if you try the same on a big analog modular you won't get very far at all - less far than you can get with code, given that very basic singing synthesis was already a solved problem back in the 1960s, and systems like Vocaloid have been commercial products for more than a decade now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsJCJ02184 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsJCJ02184 ...Which is the core problem with analog synthesis, whether it's a modular or a box-of-knobs synth: it's the synthesis equivalent of writing code in BASIC. You can do it, and it's good for certain kinds of jobs. But even though a wall of knobs and wires looks like the last word in musical openness, it actually puts some very rigid limits on the complexity and sophistication of what you can do. And worse (IMO) it trains you to think inside those limits instead of encouraging you to explore beyond them.

twii 9y ago

Looks a bit like one of JunkyXL's setups. Fortunately for mankind there is no way you can make better music with a setup like this compared to a poor man's basic setup. Most 'poor' people are lost when they happen to become 'rich'. It's a (mouse) trap. You'll see this over and over again..

ehsankia 9y ago

That's entirely true, and I don't think he's doing all this "to make better music". But as a true audio geek, that's something that's extremely fun and cool to do if you can afford it. It's like people building insane gaming stations with lots of lights and crazy decoration. It won't make them better gamers, but it's a great hobby. As mentioned in the video, you can emulate all of these in the computer anyway, but if you've got the money, why not create something cool like this?

kristofferR 9y ago
The video actually claims at 05:10 that they can create sounds that can't be created digitally.

okket 9y ago

IMHO the audio nerd version of a huge garage filled with sports cars and old timers.