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This is such a meaningless statement. What exactly are you trying to convey?

tartuffe78 9y ago
Don't ever use services provided by a third party. That's why I cut my own hair, make my own toothpaste, and create my own electricity from coal I mine myself!
- artursapek 9y ago
  >not generating it in a home-made hamster wheel magnetic generator
- Confiks 9y ago
  And if you want toasted bread, don't buy that $5 toaster, but source your own: http://www.thetoasterproject.org/page2.htm http://www.thetoasterproject.org/page2.htm
- gorkonsine 9y ago
  Your comparison, and the toaster one by the responder, are nonsensical. There's a difference between a product and a service. Toothpaste is a product, not a service. AWS is a service, not a product. You can buy toothpaste anywhere; if you want to compare with AWS, AWS is like hiring a dental hygienist to come to your house twice a day and brush your teeth for you instead of doing it yourself. The hair-cutting bit is valid, but lots of people cut their own hair, especially men. The electricity bit is only partially valid; coal is a commodity that you can buy, just like toothpaste. You can also buy solar panels and make yourself totally independent of the electric utility. But it falls down because electric utilities are utilities and are regulated as such, whereas AWS is not regulated. The toaster thing is just dumb; toasters are cheap commodities. Again, the AWS comparison is hiring a butler to make your toast for you.
- grogenaut 9y ago
  Bush league... I perfarmd my owne brained sugery Las week.
gorkonsine 9y ago
There's always a danger when you rely on outside provider for something that's critical to your business or life. Sometimes you can't avoid it or it's completely infeasible to, but choose carefully. I see too many companies using AWS for stuff they could fairly easily self-host.
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  By "self-host", don't you mean "rely on a landlord / ISP / colocation facility"?
  - gorkonsine 9y ago
    No, if it's for non-web-hosting stuff, I mean buying your own servers and administering them yourself. Obviously, web-hosting stuff is a little different. AWS is a lot more than just web hosting: it's a cloud computing provider.
  - e59d134d 9y ago
    Back in days we rented servers and created our env, it was not really that hard. And it was super easy to move from one provider to another.
    - ceejayoz 9y ago
      > Back in days we rented servers As you do with AWS... > and created our env As you do with AWS... > And it was super easy to move from one provider to another. Which is easier on cloud hosting than it ever was when dealing with colocation providers.
      - raesene6 9y ago
        Well it's not quite the same with AWS if you start making use of any of their facilities past straight EC2 instances. AWS provides a number of SAAS offerings which, if you make use of them, tie you to Amazon specifically, as opposed to an IAAS offering which is likely to be more easily portable to another provider.

Don't ever use services provided by a third party. That's why I cut my own hair, make my own toothpaste, and create my own electricity from coal I mine myself!

artursapek 9y ago
>not generating it in a home-made hamster wheel magnetic generator
Confiks 9y ago
And if you want toasted bread, don't buy that $5 toaster, but source your own: http://www.thetoasterproject.org/page2.htm http://www.thetoasterproject.org/page2.htm
gorkonsine 9y ago
Your comparison, and the toaster one by the responder, are nonsensical. There's a difference between a product and a service. Toothpaste is a product, not a service. AWS is a service, not a product. You can buy toothpaste anywhere; if you want to compare with AWS, AWS is like hiring a dental hygienist to come to your house twice a day and brush your teeth for you instead of doing it yourself. The hair-cutting bit is valid, but lots of people cut their own hair, especially men. The electricity bit is only partially valid; coal is a commodity that you can buy, just like toothpaste. You can also buy solar panels and make yourself totally independent of the electric utility. But it falls down because electric utilities are utilities and are regulated as such, whereas AWS is not regulated. The toaster thing is just dumb; toasters are cheap commodities. Again, the AWS comparison is hiring a butler to make your toast for you.
grogenaut 9y ago
Bush league... I perfarmd my owne brained sugery Las week.

gorkonsine 9y ago

There's always a danger when you rely on outside provider for something that's critical to your business or life. Sometimes you can't avoid it or it's completely infeasible to, but choose carefully. I see too many companies using AWS for stuff they could fairly easily self-host.

ceejayoz 9y ago
By "self-host", don't you mean "rely on a landlord / ISP / colocation facility"?
- gorkonsine 9y ago
  No, if it's for non-web-hosting stuff, I mean buying your own servers and administering them yourself. Obviously, web-hosting stuff is a little different. AWS is a lot more than just web hosting: it's a cloud computing provider.
- e59d134d 9y ago
  Back in days we rented servers and created our env, it was not really that hard. And it was super easy to move from one provider to another.
  - ceejayoz 9y ago
    > Back in days we rented servers As you do with AWS... > and created our env As you do with AWS... > And it was super easy to move from one provider to another. Which is easier on cloud hosting than it ever was when dealing with colocation providers.
    - raesene6 9y ago
      Well it's not quite the same with AWS if you start making use of any of their facilities past straight EC2 instances. AWS provides a number of SAAS offerings which, if you make use of them, tie you to Amazon specifically, as opposed to an IAAS offering which is likely to be more easily portable to another provider.