> I've seen a lot of programmers that love design patterns, SOLID code, and hip new frameworks; but hate talking to users, getting stuff shipped or keeping thin

> I've seen a lot of programmers that love design patterns, SOLID code, and hip new frameworks; but hate talking to users, getting stuff shipped or keeping things running. I think these tasks are not meant for programmers in the first place. But indeed it's beneficial when programmers know how to handle those things properly.