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Yes, I have a separate laptop for all the distracting sites including HN. My main machine is for work. But why do you need Facebook app on your iPhone at all?

by ivm 9y ago

Yes, I have a separate laptop for all the distracting sites including HN. My main machine is for work. But why do you need Facebook app on your iPhone at all? Messenger is enough.

softawre 9y ago
Would you really be surprised to learn that others use technology differently than you? Why do you need Messenger on your phone at all? Snapchat/iMessage/etc is enough.
- ivm 9y ago
  What's with the sarcasm? I asked why somebody keeps a purely entertaining app while trying not to get distracted by it. The Messenger argument is completely unrelated because it's a useful app to stay in touch.
  - logicallee 9y ago
    Not the other poster, but something that might explain their reaction is that you mentioned keeping an entire separate computer. It is easy to see why this would cause an extreme reaction. (Not saying it's not a good idea.)
    - ivm 9y ago
      I wasn't able to predict that discussing a better setup can cause "an extreme reaction". The second machine is not that important, I would prefer to schedule distraction blocking on my computer for most of the day and removing apps like FB from my phone.
      - logicallee 9y ago
        Right, but that's not what you stated. If we take an extreme view of "scheduling distractions" why not keep your second computer in another apartment you rent for this purpose, a block away? You can still go there whenever you take a 10 minute break, but it's a shift in environment and context that it takes will to go through. Regardless of whether this would work or not, or the dollar value you place on your increased productivity, it is easy to see why the suggestion of renting a whole other apartment would be extreme! Likewise, given that a single computer can switch tasks easily, the suggestion of using a whole separate computer is clearly extreme.
  - wutbrodo 9y ago
    > What's with the sarcasm? I asked why somebody keeps a purely entertaining app while trying not to get distracted by it. I think the characterization of the FB app as "purely entertaining" in a way Messenger isn't is inaccurate. Maybe I'm mistaken, but Messenger doesn't have every feature of Facebook that can't be classed as distracting entertainment. For example, events and group postings (not group messages). The latter two are the main reason I ever open my Facebook app, and it's a stretch to find a definition of "pure entertainment" that includes them and not messaging.
whiddershins 9y ago
Events. If for no other reason, that would be more than enough reason.
- ivm 9y ago
  All the events in my city are organized on FB. Even restaurants post their lunch menus daily on FB. I just check it from my laptop before leaving. It's not like most people need it on the go and if you suddenly do – there's still a web browser access. Meanwhile, keeping FB or Twitter apps on your phone makes it a slot machine in your pocket. Try to delete them for a day and count the times you are picking it to check them.

by ivm 9y ago

Yes, I have a separate laptop for all the distracting sites including HN. My main machine is for work. But why do you need Facebook app on your iPhone at all? Messenger is enough.

softawre 9y ago

Would you really be surprised to learn that others use technology differently than you? Why do you need Messenger on your phone at all? Snapchat/iMessage/etc is enough.

ivm 9y ago
What's with the sarcasm? I asked why somebody keeps a purely entertaining app while trying not to get distracted by it. The Messenger argument is completely unrelated because it's a useful app to stay in touch.
- logicallee 9y ago
  Not the other poster, but something that might explain their reaction is that you mentioned keeping an entire separate computer. It is easy to see why this would cause an extreme reaction. (Not saying it's not a good idea.)
  - ivm 9y ago
    I wasn't able to predict that discussing a better setup can cause "an extreme reaction". The second machine is not that important, I would prefer to schedule distraction blocking on my computer for most of the day and removing apps like FB from my phone.
    - logicallee 9y ago
      Right, but that's not what you stated. If we take an extreme view of "scheduling distractions" why not keep your second computer in another apartment you rent for this purpose, a block away? You can still go there whenever you take a 10 minute break, but it's a shift in environment and context that it takes will to go through. Regardless of whether this would work or not, or the dollar value you place on your increased productivity, it is easy to see why the suggestion of renting a whole other apartment would be extreme! Likewise, given that a single computer can switch tasks easily, the suggestion of using a whole separate computer is clearly extreme.
- wutbrodo 9y ago
  > What's with the sarcasm? I asked why somebody keeps a purely entertaining app while trying not to get distracted by it. I think the characterization of the FB app as "purely entertaining" in a way Messenger isn't is inaccurate. Maybe I'm mistaken, but Messenger doesn't have every feature of Facebook that can't be classed as distracting entertainment. For example, events and group postings (not group messages). The latter two are the main reason I ever open my Facebook app, and it's a stretch to find a definition of "pure entertainment" that includes them and not messaging.

whiddershins 9y ago

Events. If for no other reason, that would be more than enough reason.

ivm 9y ago
All the events in my city are organized on FB. Even restaurants post their lunch menus daily on FB. I just check it from my laptop before leaving. It's not like most people need it on the go and if you suddenly do – there's still a web browser access. Meanwhile, keeping FB or Twitter apps on your phone makes it a slot machine in your pocket. Try to delete them for a day and count the times you are picking it to check them.