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It's such a pity that AWS don't offer a managed Kubernetes cluster as a service. Our team has "wasted" a fair bit of time researching and implementing all the

It's such a pity that AWS don't offer a managed Kubernetes cluster as a service. Our team has "wasted" a fair bit of time researching and implementing all the bits and pieces to build pre-prod prod Kubernets environments, whereas Azure (and obviously) GCE's out of the box solutions make it so much easier.

tyingq 9y ago
It would be nice, but it's easy to see why they don't. Assuming the customer set that wants a supported orchestration tool, it would allow those AWS customers to more easily leave for Azure or GCE. Perhaps more importantly, it would allow existing customers to have credible on-prem dev, test, or disaster environments. When you have the sort of market share AWS has, there's no real incentive to open those doors. I suspect this won't change until/if this market is more balanced.
- atonse 9y ago
  Perhaps for some AWS services (ECS, etc). But I would still stay on amazon for all the other surrounding services that are crucial, SQS, S3, occasionally DynamoDB, Lambda. I would love to have managed k8s on amazon. It wouldn't move me away because of all those surrounding technologies.
  - tyingq 9y ago
    That's a good point, though there are on-prem and "other vendor" api compatible services for some of those, like S3. Minio, for example: https://github.com/minio/minio https://github.com/minio/minio or Google's cloud storage. Both are compatible with the S3 api.
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      It's only a matter of time until these AWS primative replacements are mature within Kubrnetes, which is definitely a good thing. AWS is wonderful, but you always have to have tooling ready to not be held hostage by a vendor. And any vendor will hold you hostage once they have enough market dominance or enough of your business.
  - thockingoog 9y ago
    A great many of those (but not all, I admit) have equivalents on Google Cloud. I know I am somewhat biased (as I work there) but the technology is really great. BigQuery is untouchable. Spanner is magical. CloudML is hands-down the best offering. Etc. Have you ever considered "what if I didn't presuppose AWS?"

tyingq 9y ago

It would be nice, but it's easy to see why they don't. Assuming the customer set that wants a supported orchestration tool, it would allow those AWS customers to more easily leave for Azure or GCE. Perhaps more importantly, it would allow existing customers to have credible on-prem dev, test, or disaster environments. When you have the sort of market share AWS has, there's no real incentive to open those doors. I suspect this won't change until/if this market is more balanced.

atonse 9y ago
Perhaps for some AWS services (ECS, etc). But I would still stay on amazon for all the other surrounding services that are crucial, SQS, S3, occasionally DynamoDB, Lambda. I would love to have managed k8s on amazon. It wouldn't move me away because of all those surrounding technologies.
- tyingq 9y ago
  That's a good point, though there are on-prem and "other vendor" api compatible services for some of those, like S3. Minio, for example: https://github.com/minio/minio https://github.com/minio/minio or Google's cloud storage. Both are compatible with the S3 api.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    It's only a matter of time until these AWS primative replacements are mature within Kubrnetes, which is definitely a good thing. AWS is wonderful, but you always have to have tooling ready to not be held hostage by a vendor. And any vendor will hold you hostage once they have enough market dominance or enough of your business.
- thockingoog 9y ago
  A great many of those (but not all, I admit) have equivalents on Google Cloud. I know I am somewhat biased (as I work there) but the technology is really great. BigQuery is untouchable. Spanner is magical. CloudML is hands-down the best offering. Etc. Have you ever considered "what if I didn't presuppose AWS?"