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it is not about the graphics, it is about the content

by gondo 9y ago

pandaman 9y ago
Exactly. TVs, game consoles and digital cameras I mentioned were sold as devices to consume and produce content people wanted. The current VR push is "Look how awesome the technology is now! Surely somebody will make a lot of tasty content for it. Any time now. Why would not you buy a set so you are ready when the content hits? It's coming. Get your set now so you won't have to wait in lines when the content will finally appear and everyone will rush the stores. This will happen. Just be prepared. Any minute now."
- saiya-jin 9y ago
  Sad, but so true. Where are the awesome games and apps for hardware released last year, when devs had years and years to produce content for them? Not toys for few minutes / hours at max, but proper, immersive long games designed specifically for VR. They are so far not here, and thus we, the majority wait. And let's be honest - having some fine action game in 4k on 65" TV ain't that bad experience either
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  If you get a chance to play SUPERHOT VR, do. It's the best VR game I've ever played. The only drawback is the cost of the rig needed to play it.
  - pandaman 9y ago
    And here is another issue. The content to sell VR cannot be hyped by "try it!". You want to sell VR to someone who has not bought it yet so there is no time/content restricted "demo version" route. You cannot demo it in Bestbuy either (I don't know many people willing to put a public use mask on their faces). If a 2D video does not sell it then the only channel left is through friends and family. Do you have friends coming over just to play SUPERHOT VR?
    - Zelizz 9y ago
      It's already being demoed in Microsoft stores, actually.
    - agar 9y ago
      Many companies use disposable covers[1] when doing demos at conferences. I'm not sure if Best Buy uses them for their demos as well (which are available at many stores), but generally companies do address the hygiene problem. [1] https://vrcover.com/product/htc-vive-disposable-hygiene-cover/ https://vrcover.com/product/htc-vive-disposable-hygiene-cove...
agar 9y ago
Those who say there is no VR content typically do not own a major headset. There are at least 236 VR apps on Steam[1], well over 300 on the Oculus Store for Rift (I stopped counting after 300 - click "show all" under Browse All at the link below)[2], more for GearVR, and more for PlayStation. Many of these are duplicates, but not all. There are multiple other stores, including WEARVR.com, itch.io, Viveport, the Oculus GearVR store, Google Play store, PlayStation Store, and others. Numerous 360 video portals and creators present and produce content including BBC, Disney, National Geographic, New York Times, etc. VR tie-ins to feature films include Spiderman Homecoming, John Wick, Games of Thrones, and many others. Companies such as Volkswagen use VR for training and development. SIs such as Accenture have built practices to support enterprise adoption of VR and AR technology for manufacturing, training, and advertising. Though a lot of content includes thin "experiences," there are so many high quality, rich applications and games that a backlog (more content than time) is a common problem for working adults. Oculus alone will be publishing a major game each month through the end of the year. Fallout, Skyrim, and other game titles are getting the VR treatment as well. Content is not the problem. The outdated perception of a lack of content is a huge problem. [1] http://store.steampowered.com/vr/#p=0&tab=TopSellers http://store.steampowered.com/vr/#p=0&tab=TopSellers [2] https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/ https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/ [3] https://www.volkswagen-media-services.com/en/detailpage/-/detail/Volkswagen-Group-is-backing-virtual-reality-solutions-for-interactive-collaboration-in-production--logistics/view/5269723 https://www.volkswagen-media-services.com/en/detailpage/-/de...

it is not about the graphics, it is about the content

by gondo 9y ago

it is not about the graphics, it is about the content

Exactly. TVs, game consoles and digital cameras I mentioned were sold as devices to consume and produce content people wanted. The current VR push is "Look how awesome the technology is now! Surely somebody will make a lot of tasty content for it. Any time now. Why would not you buy a set so you are ready when the content hits? It's coming. Get your set now so you won't have to wait in lines when the content will finally appear and everyone will rush the stores. This will happen. Just be prepared. Any minute now."

saiya-jin 9y ago
Sad, but so true. Where are the awesome games and apps for hardware released last year, when devs had years and years to produce content for them? Not toys for few minutes / hours at max, but proper, immersive long games designed specifically for VR. They are so far not here, and thus we, the majority wait. And let's be honest - having some fine action game in 4k on 65" TV ain't that bad experience either
ZenoArrow 9y ago
If you get a chance to play SUPERHOT VR, do. It's the best VR game I've ever played. The only drawback is the cost of the rig needed to play it.
- pandaman 9y ago
  And here is another issue. The content to sell VR cannot be hyped by "try it!". You want to sell VR to someone who has not bought it yet so there is no time/content restricted "demo version" route. You cannot demo it in Bestbuy either (I don't know many people willing to put a public use mask on their faces). If a 2D video does not sell it then the only channel left is through friends and family. Do you have friends coming over just to play SUPERHOT VR?
  - Zelizz 9y ago
    It's already being demoed in Microsoft stores, actually.
  - agar 9y ago
    Many companies use disposable covers[1] when doing demos at conferences. I'm not sure if Best Buy uses them for their demos as well (which are available at many stores), but generally companies do address the hygiene problem. [1] https://vrcover.com/product/htc-vive-disposable-hygiene-cover/ https://vrcover.com/product/htc-vive-disposable-hygiene-cove...

agar 9y ago

Those who say there is no VR content typically do not own a major headset. There are at least 236 VR apps on Steam[1], well over 300 on the Oculus Store for Rift (I stopped counting after 300 - click "show all" under Browse All at the link below)[2], more for GearVR, and more for PlayStation. Many of these are duplicates, but not all. There are multiple other stores, including WEARVR.com, itch.io, Viveport, the Oculus GearVR store, Google Play store, PlayStation Store, and others. Numerous 360 video portals and creators present and produce content including BBC, Disney, National Geographic, New York Times, etc. VR tie-ins to feature films include Spiderman Homecoming, John Wick, Games of Thrones, and many others. Companies such as Volkswagen use VR for training and development. SIs such as Accenture have built practices to support enterprise adoption of VR and AR technology for manufacturing, training, and advertising. Though a lot of content includes thin "experiences," there are so many high quality, rich applications and games that a backlog (more content than time) is a common problem for working adults. Oculus alone will be publishing a major game each month through the end of the year. Fallout, Skyrim, and other game titles are getting the VR treatment as well. Content is not the problem. The outdated perception of a lack of content is a huge problem. [1] http://store.steampowered.com/vr/#p=0&tab=TopSellers http://store.steampowered.com/vr/#p=0&tab=TopSellers [2] https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/ https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/ [3] https://www.volkswagen-media-services.com/en/detailpage/-/detail/Volkswagen-Group-is-backing-virtual-reality-solutions-for-interactive-collaboration-in-production--logistics/view/5269723 https://www.volkswagen-media-services.com/en/detailpage/-/de...