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I'm not too sure how this would fare. People already have trust issues with Google, not sure how willing they would be to give Google (more) access to their liv

by imagii 16y ago

I'm not too sure how this would fare. People already have trust issues with Google, not sure how willing they would be to give Google (more) access to their lives.

yellowbkpk 16y ago
I would say that even more people have trust issues with Facebook, and look how far that's gotten them. As long as Google starts off with a gentle, opt-in approach (to stem the problems that came from Buzz), I think they'll be successful.
paulnelligan 16y ago
I'd feel safer in the hands of google than facebook to be honest. I have a recurring nightmare that one day, all the world's software developers will be facebook/apple employees and that startups will be limited to the facebook/apple platform, made by facebook/apple subsidiaries, and will only be available to those with a few million to throw at the advertising...
- Jun8 16y ago
  I don't understand why you feel this way, do you have any rational justification, or is it just a gut feeling? I don't know if you use GMail but Google already has a lot of information about you. Do you also want them to have your social network? EDIT: If you want to downvote OK, but please also add a comment with an argument to back your beliefs, other than "I think Facebook is evil"
  - vog 16y ago
    With Google, it's at least "just" Google who has the personal data. With Faceboook, a lot of unwanted entities get access to personal data. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704513104575256701215465596.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870451310457525...) Also, disabling the "sharing" of all personal information is quite cumbersome in Facebook. (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/12/business/facebook-privacy.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/12/business/faceb...) Google does have its drawbacks, but compared to the "social websites" it seems to be the lesser evil.
    - Jun8 16y ago
      The links you cite are before the latest big changes to the security procedure in FB. Have you tried it after the changes? Also "just" Google may be bigger than you think, e.g. your voice or text mail may end up in a lot of different departments that use it to train algorithms. Remember what happened with their WiFi sniffing. My default stand is: all big companies are evil and will abuse my data if they need to. Therefore I want to spread the chances of abuse among different companies.
      - jsankey 16y ago
        I think the biggest difference is that Google has aligned its interests more in line with users (as their best long-term strategy). Facebook seems willing to exploit users any way they can. It's wise to be cautious sharing your data with any large company, but not all of them are created equal.
- rayvega 16y ago
  Agreed. Unlike Facebook, Google let's you pull out all of your data from their services: http://www.dataliberation.org/ http://www.dataliberation.org/
- loewenskind 16y ago
  But you don't have this fear about Google? To me they're much more dangerous because it's going to be a lot harder to unseat their income source.

by imagii 16y ago

I'm not too sure how this would fare. People already have trust issues with Google, not sure how willing they would be to give Google (more) access to their lives.

yellowbkpk 16y ago

I would say that even more people have trust issues with Facebook, and look how far that's gotten them. As long as Google starts off with a gentle, opt-in approach (to stem the problems that came from Buzz), I think they'll be successful.

paulnelligan 16y ago

I'd feel safer in the hands of google than facebook to be honest. I have a recurring nightmare that one day, all the world's software developers will be facebook/apple employees and that startups will be limited to the facebook/apple platform, made by facebook/apple subsidiaries, and will only be available to those with a few million to throw at the advertising...

Jun8 16y ago
I don't understand why you feel this way, do you have any rational justification, or is it just a gut feeling? I don't know if you use GMail but Google already has a lot of information about you. Do you also want them to have your social network? EDIT: If you want to downvote OK, but please also add a comment with an argument to back your beliefs, other than "I think Facebook is evil"
- vog 16y ago
  With Google, it's at least "just" Google who has the personal data. With Faceboook, a lot of unwanted entities get access to personal data. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704513104575256701215465596.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870451310457525...) Also, disabling the "sharing" of all personal information is quite cumbersome in Facebook. (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/12/business/facebook-privacy.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/12/business/faceb...) Google does have its drawbacks, but compared to the "social websites" it seems to be the lesser evil.
  - Jun8 16y ago
    The links you cite are before the latest big changes to the security procedure in FB. Have you tried it after the changes? Also "just" Google may be bigger than you think, e.g. your voice or text mail may end up in a lot of different departments that use it to train algorithms. Remember what happened with their WiFi sniffing. My default stand is: all big companies are evil and will abuse my data if they need to. Therefore I want to spread the chances of abuse among different companies.
    - jsankey 16y ago
      I think the biggest difference is that Google has aligned its interests more in line with users (as their best long-term strategy). Facebook seems willing to exploit users any way they can. It's wise to be cautious sharing your data with any large company, but not all of them are created equal.
rayvega 16y ago
Agreed. Unlike Facebook, Google let's you pull out all of your data from their services: http://www.dataliberation.org/ http://www.dataliberation.org/
loewenskind 16y ago
But you don't have this fear about Google? To me they're much more dangerous because it's going to be a lot harder to unseat their income source.