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That sounds like a really great realization to have had! For the record, what your old manager was doing (directly asking you about your mental health status i

That sounds like a really great realization to have had! For the record, what your old manager was doing (directly asking you about your mental health status in a quasi-interview setting) was probably illegal, at least in the US (IANAL). There are pretty strict rules around the kinds of things that employers are allowed to ask prospective employees about, and health (mental or otherwise) is very much on the "not allowed" list. Employees have a legal right to protection from discrimination along those lines, and companies (no matter how small) most definitely do _not_ have the right to discriminate in that way.

lazyasciiart 9y ago
Not quite. There are laws about why an employer can decide not to hire you, and it is easy to argue that if an employer asked about a protected condition and then decided not to hire you, they did so because of that information - so generally employers try very hard to avoid knowing about protected conditions for a candidate so they can't be accused of discrimination if they don't hire you. (In this case, the manager did more than just ask about it, he pretty much said they would reject him because of the condition, and that bit would be the evidence of illegal behavior).
- stevenbedrick 9y ago
  Ah, thanks for the clarification- that's a really important point.
just4themoney 9y ago
>health (mental or otherwise) is very much on the "not allowed" list This is a gross oversimplification to the point of being untrue. In addition to what the sibling comment said about asking itself not being illegal, you're allowed to discriminate based on health/disability status all you want if the disability prevents an employee from doing a bona fide job requirement and there isn't any "reasonable accommodation" you can provide for that employee. For example - if you're a interviewing/hiring for a job that requires the employee to, say, move heavy boxes all day you're going to need to ask that employee "can you lift and move boxes up to 60 pounds?" and you're going to have to reject candidates that can't due to health conditions. Likewise you may have to reject a candidate who is a bad coder even if he has a learning disability.
- stevenbedrick 9y ago
  Agreed that it was an oversimplification, and thanks for the additional clarity and info. In the box-lifting example, doesn't that sort of thing usually have to be made very explicit in the requirements job posting?

lazyasciiart 9y ago

Not quite. There are laws about why an employer can decide not to hire you, and it is easy to argue that if an employer asked about a protected condition and then decided not to hire you, they did so because of that information - so generally employers try very hard to avoid knowing about protected conditions for a candidate so they can't be accused of discrimination if they don't hire you. (In this case, the manager did more than just ask about it, he pretty much said they would reject him because of the condition, and that bit would be the evidence of illegal behavior).

stevenbedrick 9y ago
Ah, thanks for the clarification- that's a really important point.

just4themoney 9y ago

>health (mental or otherwise) is very much on the "not allowed" list This is a gross oversimplification to the point of being untrue. In addition to what the sibling comment said about asking itself not being illegal, you're allowed to discriminate based on health/disability status all you want if the disability prevents an employee from doing a bona fide job requirement and there isn't any "reasonable accommodation" you can provide for that employee. For example - if you're a interviewing/hiring for a job that requires the employee to, say, move heavy boxes all day you're going to need to ask that employee "can you lift and move boxes up to 60 pounds?" and you're going to have to reject candidates that can't due to health conditions. Likewise you may have to reject a candidate who is a bad coder even if he has a learning disability.

stevenbedrick 9y ago
Agreed that it was an oversimplification, and thanks for the additional clarity and info. In the box-lifting example, doesn't that sort of thing usually have to be made very explicit in the requirements job posting?