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It's easy to call Linus a bully, abrasive what not... But I think a lot of people in his position, who get huge amount of code to review, and some of it pretty

It's easy to call Linus a bully, abrasive what not... But I think a lot of people in his position, who get huge amount of code to review, and some of it pretty horrible would handle this even worse. Also I think this is his way of filtering people that can't cope with him. If you are strong-willed enough you will go over what he said and try to make your code better otherwise you will just leave. Anyway he did not lose anything in his opinion. I fully support his style of communication and think everyone should be able to choose how to lead their personal projects. If you don't agree with the community nobody is forcing you to join it. Not everything in life has to be nice towards you. Some stuff you remember better if it hurts.

tyingq 9y ago
It would be difficult to determine if his style has been an overall net benefit or net deficit though. Certainly things worked out well, but would they have worked out better if he took a different approach?
- owebmaster 9y ago
  One thing for sure is that nobody complaining made it better. RMS has his differences from Linus but isn't like these small issues. Linus is just straightforward.
  - tyingq 9y ago
    >One thing for sure is that nobody complaining made it better Talented people, that made concrete contributions, have left because they didn't want to deal with him. One example: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/06/linix_kernel_dev_who_asked_linus_torvalds_to_stop_swearing_quits_over_swearing/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/06/linix_kernel_dev_wh...
    - ralfn 9y ago
      Wouldnt the opposite be true as well? I can imagine some one staying away from certain ecosystems because they are too nice to inconpetence. For example, say, how pythons standard JSON library intentionally and likely well intended, breaks the the standard and causes hours of debugging nightmare. In a less friendly world this wouldnt fly and if i need something that actually works ill have a strong bias for the products of the "mean people"
gkya 9y ago
Linux is not his personal project at all. Just check out the copyright lines.

tyingq 9y ago

It would be difficult to determine if his style has been an overall net benefit or net deficit though. Certainly things worked out well, but would they have worked out better if he took a different approach?

owebmaster 9y ago
One thing for sure is that nobody complaining made it better. RMS has his differences from Linus but isn't like these small issues. Linus is just straightforward.
- tyingq 9y ago
  >One thing for sure is that nobody complaining made it better Talented people, that made concrete contributions, have left because they didn't want to deal with him. One example: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/06/linix_kernel_dev_who_asked_linus_torvalds_to_stop_swearing_quits_over_swearing/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/06/linix_kernel_dev_wh...
  - ralfn 9y ago
    Wouldnt the opposite be true as well? I can imagine some one staying away from certain ecosystems because they are too nice to inconpetence. For example, say, how pythons standard JSON library intentionally and likely well intended, breaks the the standard and causes hours of debugging nightmare. In a less friendly world this wouldnt fly and if i need something that actually works ill have a strong bias for the products of the "mean people"

gkya 9y ago

Linux is not his personal project at all. Just check out the copyright lines.