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Plenty of Bolt's for sale at a local Oregon dealer: http://www.carrchevrolet.com http://www.carrchevrolet.com I'm not sure what makes it worth 2x a Honda Civic

Plenty of Bolt's for sale at a local Oregon dealer: http://www.carrchevrolet.com http://www.carrchevrolet.com I'm not sure what makes it worth 2x a Honda Civic.

zanny 9y ago
Every electric car has tremendous markup because batteries are still very expensive for the volume they put in the car. It is also worth considering these batteries have a fixed lifetime. Any electric car is going to need new batteries in 10 years - batteries that originally represented about half the ticket price of the car. You basically assume the cost of batteries will drop tremendously in the next decade or else not only are you paying a lot for the car up front, you are also paying the price of a new entry level car every decade just to replace the batteries.
- cmrdporcupine 9y ago
  GM has put an incredible amount of engineering into the degradation issue and there are 2011 Volts still on the road with a few hundred thousand miles on them that have had no degradation issue. Proper temperature control and discharge and recharge management is part of it. Air cooling like Nissan and a few others have done just doesn't cut it in most climates, which is why they've had to replace many customer's batteries.
cmrdporcupine 9y ago
The fact that you'll never buy gas again is one. The better drive is another -- quieter, better acceleration, smoother. There's actually no comparison on the numbers until you go way up in the Civic line to one of their sports car types. Also better onboard tech -- last I looked Honda wasn't even offering Android auto. The system in the Bolt is in my opinion quite good. The Bolt's body styling makes it look like a cheap hatch, which is unfortunate. The insides of the thing are actually really good. I'd recommend taking one for a drive just for fun. GM can't seem to get its act together on styling, but apart from fairly uncomfortable seats, I actually prefer the Bolt's interior to my Volt. Anyways, here's some numbers. The Civic even in its "Sport hatch" configuration isn't even close: Acceleration times & torque: 2017 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T Hatchback C 0-60 mph 7.0 | Quarter mile 15.2 Power: 180 hp @ 6000 rpm Torque: 162 lb-ft @ 1700 rpm 2017 Chevrolet Bolt 0-60 mph 6.4 | Quarter mile 15.0 Power: 200 HP @ all RPMs Torque: 266 lb/ft @ all RPMS

Plenty of Bolt's for sale at a local Oregon dealer: http://www.carrchevrolet.com http://www.carrchevrolet.com I'm not sure what makes it worth 2x a Honda Civic.

zanny 9y ago

Every electric car has tremendous markup because batteries are still very expensive for the volume they put in the car. It is also worth considering these batteries have a fixed lifetime. Any electric car is going to need new batteries in 10 years - batteries that originally represented about half the ticket price of the car. You basically assume the cost of batteries will drop tremendously in the next decade or else not only are you paying a lot for the car up front, you are also paying the price of a new entry level car every decade just to replace the batteries.

cmrdporcupine 9y ago
GM has put an incredible amount of engineering into the degradation issue and there are 2011 Volts still on the road with a few hundred thousand miles on them that have had no degradation issue. Proper temperature control and discharge and recharge management is part of it. Air cooling like Nissan and a few others have done just doesn't cut it in most climates, which is why they've had to replace many customer's batteries.

cmrdporcupine 9y ago

The fact that you'll never buy gas again is one. The better drive is another -- quieter, better acceleration, smoother. There's actually no comparison on the numbers until you go way up in the Civic line to one of their sports car types. Also better onboard tech -- last I looked Honda wasn't even offering Android auto. The system in the Bolt is in my opinion quite good. The Bolt's body styling makes it look like a cheap hatch, which is unfortunate. The insides of the thing are actually really good. I'd recommend taking one for a drive just for fun. GM can't seem to get its act together on styling, but apart from fairly uncomfortable seats, I actually prefer the Bolt's interior to my Volt. Anyways, here's some numbers. The Civic even in its "Sport hatch" configuration isn't even close: Acceleration times & torque: 2017 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T Hatchback C 0-60 mph 7.0 | Quarter mile 15.2 Power: 180 hp @ 6000 rpm Torque: 162 lb-ft @ 1700 rpm 2017 Chevrolet Bolt 0-60 mph 6.4 | Quarter mile 15.0 Power: 200 HP @ all RPMs Torque: 266 lb/ft @ all RPMS