> as well as many others here Appeal to popularity. > Discussion quickly then becomes both toxic and treacherous ...when people rely on misrepresentation and

> as well as many others here Appeal to popularity. > Discussion quickly then becomes both toxic and treacherous ...when people rely on misrepresentation and logical fallacies as much as you have. There's clearly little more to be said here, so I'll just reiterate my main points. There's a difference between future goals and present actions, but people often conflate the two. The OP's "we shouldn't have to do this (in the future), therefore we shouldn't do this (in the present)" falls into that trap. Your "we should never risk the slightest overcorrection" falls into a different trap, of precluding any but the most inadequate of present actions. As such, it merely reinforces the status quo. Maybe that was the goal. I wouldn't presume to read your mind as you presume to have read mine, but you haven't suggested anything positive here. "Pretend we're already equal" doesn't count.