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What I really wonder is when this chip would have been released if AMD didn't come out with Ryzen line up in 2017.
by sengork 9y ago
What I really wonder is when this chip would have been released if AMD didn't come out with Ryzen line up in 2017.
- JonRB 9y agoIt's amazing what a little healthy competition can do!
- arcanus 9y agoI'll answer your subtle comment quite explicitly: never. Intel clearly rushed this out to prevent AMD from having the perception of leading the space, at least in terms of the largest core count. The article even references this. I just hope that it stays competitive, as this is clearly a win for consumers.
- brigade 9y agoWell, no. A 10-core HEDT Skylake follow up to the 10-core Broadwell was basically a given, and would have shipped right about now regardless. Maybe Ryzen caused them to push the default clocks up, but probably not since it's unlocked anyway. Most likely only thing that Ryzen changed about this chip is knocking $800 off the price (and maybe the i9 marketing name.) The rest of the i9 lineup, thus far unreleased with only the core count actually known, is Intel's rushed response to Ryzen. Not this chip.
- paulmd 9y agoSkylake-X certainly would have existed regardless of Ryzen, Intel wants to sell these chips to Google/Amazon/Facebook as Xeons. The idea that this uarch is a reaction to AMD is absurd, this uarch has been on the roadmap for years and at most was pulled forward a few months. People will attribute anything one of AMD's competitors does to fear of AMD - 780 Ti, 980 Ti, 1080 Ti, Skylake-X, you name it. It's frankly a little comical given the actual amount of competition AMD put up with Bulldozer and Fiji/Polaris/Vega against Haswell/Skylake and Maxwell/Pascal - which is to say, hardly any. NVIDIA and Intel both have their own yield strategies and release schedules that are largely independent of what AMD does. Intel and NVIDIA are tweaking prices and specific launch dates - that's about the extent of AMD's impact on their competitors so far. (although Intel is definitely paying attention to Threadripper/Epyc now, and will be pushing core count up on consumer chipsets starting with Coffee Lake and presumably Cannonlake as well) The real problems with Skylake-X are chipset cost, power consumption, shitty partner boards with insulators on the VRMs, and TIM. None of those have anything to do with a "rushed launch", all of those are issues that have been slow-boiling for years now.
- Sephr 9y ago> Intel wants to sell these chips to Google/Amazon/Facebook as Xeons They have already been selling vastly superior Skylake-SP (and -EP) Xeons to Google/Amazon/Facebook since 2015.
- redtuesday 9y agoReading the text I think they talked about the chips with a core count larger than 10, which were never on any roadmap until AMD released Ryzen (12 core Skylake appeared on the Roadmap) and then announced Threadripper (14, 16 and 18 core Skylake X paper launched).
- mc32 9y agoI'm ignorantly guessing Intel always keep something in their back pocket ever since AMD's Athlons bested Intel's P4, just in case AMD ever tried to wrest the frown back. Or, I would, anyway.
- RachelF 9y agoYes, it's amazing what Intel can pull out of the hat when they finally get a little competition again.