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>Boldly expect acceptance, and my experience has been -- you will receive it. Thank you for your 2 anecdotes! Perhaps since Susan Fowler [0] followed your advi

>Boldly expect acceptance, and my experience has been -- you will receive it. Thank you for your 2 anecdotes! Perhaps since Susan Fowler [0] followed your advice and did not achieve results, you will give her anecdote the same argumentative weight you give yours. But there is a troubling trend I want to oppose. People seem to argue that getting vindictively angry and fighting for your rights is wrong, and that its better to sit back and let others like you be oppressed. Fortunately, someone else has written on the subject far more eloquently than I have. [1] [0] https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-on... [1] https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham....

RonanTheGrey 9y ago
Susan Fowler's case - and the case of hundreds of thousands of other women, perhaps millions - are definitely valid and valuable. I think though, that what the OP is getting at is not so much "Well, if your bold expectation didn't work, oh well" but rather, "this is not how we behave, and I have faith in you as a human being that you either a) do not want, or b) can learn not to, treat me this way. Rather than go and make my own tribe, I'm going to insist that you treat me well within this tribe we already share." By all means get angry. Just don't resort to separating yourself. It's a harder road. It is not as glamorous. But the ends do not justify the means; because the means make the ends. If exclusivity is the tool we use, it is only to be expected that division and exclusion is what we end up with. If the goal is inclusion, it must also be the tool.