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> PIPs are used to try and demonstrate cause so that collecting benefits is harder. I mean, I'd agree that someone at some point in time has used a PIP for th

> PIPs are used to try and demonstrate cause so that collecting benefits is harder. I mean, I'd agree that someone at some point in time has used a PIP for this reason, but I'd strongly argue that this is wrong. I'd argue a much more charitable and accurate description of why PIP's are used is to protect the company from a litigious former employee. They are designed to show that they company tried to help the fired employee before they took the final action of letting them go.

steveklabnik 9y ago
... and the reason that they want to do that is so that the person cannot collect benefits, or has a harder time doing so. Maybe you've worked with better employers than I have, but it's pretty much been an open secret in a few different places I've worked, both inside and outside of tech. Or, sometimes it's not a PIP, but something similar. Many fast food places have a policy where if you're underperforming, your hours get reduced. If they want to fire you, they don't fire you: they give you one, four-hour shift a week at the slowest possible time of the week. That way, they didn't fire you; you quit, and so you don't get unemployment, etc. If you don't show up for your shift, then you're fired with cause, and so you don't get unemployment, etc.